• I've received emails and PM's asking me about "Group Buys" and promotions.

    A Group Buy here on SnoWestOnline.com would be a situation where a normal member (non vendor or mfg) personally collects orders from other members. That member then uses those orders to negotiate a better price with the Vendor/Mfg for HIS/HER "Group" of buyers.

    Here is an example of a viable "Group Buy"

    http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269222

    A promotion that has the words "Group Buy" in the title is still a promotion, and from the rules that were handed down to me by Harris Publications is that non-advertisers cannot run promotions or open sales programs on the forums outside of the swapmeet.

    If a members wants to become a group buy manager, maintain a thread and collect the funds and negotiate a group buy... as a member, you are welcome to do that as long as you are not attached to the business of the vendor or Mfg.

    If you are a vendor/MFG and you want to offer an EXCLUSIVE "SnoWestOnline ONLY" promotion that is exclusive to snowest readers, please contact me and you'll be able to put it up in the Polaris forums.

    Also, before any vendors/mfgs get all "riled up" over this know that the moderators are strictly volunteers and do not receive a dime from any advertising $$ spent on this site.

    As ALWAYS, since DAY ONE of me becoming a moderator, I have pioneered, supported and encouraged vendors and mfgs in getting the word out to our readers with "New Product Announcements.

    Have a great season.

    From this point on, all vendors/mfg's promoting Pre-Season tiered sales programs, in the Polaris Forums, that are not paid advertisers will be appropriately moved to the swapmeet section of the forums.

    MH

Substandard Ice Scratchers

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moving the scratchers to the skis is the most effective.


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I’m only aware of the Ice storm OTTP slightly outperforming the HOLZ scratchers. (Polaris copied / bought out HOLZ for the rear suspension geometry and scratchers)

The oem poo scratchers are around 2x stiffer than staycool or other aftermarket cheap scratchers.

The doo coil spring scratchers chintzy cast aluminum rail block just shatter and fall off quickly. (Besides the fact they throw up less than half the snow of polaris scratchers)
You don't need the stand off block - just slip end inside rail cut out ....

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You don't need the stand off block - just slip end inside rail cut out ....

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I’m talking about the actual mount that holds the coil on the rail.
 

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With all the great improvements for 2022, why are the same substandard ice scratchers being used on the new sleds?

Polaris really should have ice scratchers that are reverse capable and that actually do a good good of cooling.
The oem ski dampeners make the oem scratchers look really good. Polaris has some work to do.
 

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How are you breaking the rail mount??? Have them on a couple of Ayxs and Summits and gave only seen the stand offs break ...

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The cast aluminum shatters.

Happens on most of the sleds I’ve seen with the same Doo scratchers.
 

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The cast aluminum shatters.

Happens on most of the sleds I’ve seen with the same Doo scratchers.
Never happened in our group in the years we've used them. Those Doo scratchers have been great for us.

At least there are a few options for folks to try.
 
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I wholeheartedly agree the OEM Poo scratchers are complete garbage. Go out in your garaqe and drop your OEM scratchers to the floor, guess what, those two coil scratchers won't even touch the concrete, much less hardpack snow. I broke three in two rides, bought the Staycool 3 coil scratchers that actually exert a little down pressure, they last forever, and actually cool your sled. Garbage equipment, such as the OEM scratchers make me wonder if there is any R&D/Test Rides that are performed prior to any sled release. Give me one to test, I could have told them they needed an improvement in about 100' on the trail!!! Why they haven't improved on this in 20 years is totally incomprehensible. I went for an early morning ride today, seven miles down a frozen trail, had I had the OEM scratchers on I would have had to turn around and go home, as several others did.
 

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I wholeheartedly agree the OEM Poo scratchers are complete garbage. Go out in your garaqe and drop your OEM scratchers to the floor, guess what, those two coil scratchers won't even touch the concrete, much less hardpack snow. I broke three in two rides, bought the Staycool 3 coil scratchers that actually exert a little down pressure, they last forever, and actually cool your sled. Garbage equipment, such as the OEM scratchers make me wonder if there is any R&D/Test Rides that are performed prior to any sled release. Give me one to test, I could have told them they needed an improvement in about 100' on the trail!!! Why they haven't improved on this in 20 years is totally incomprehensible. I went for an early morning ride today, seven miles down a frozen trail, had I had the OEM scratchers on I would have had to turn around and go home, as several others did.
what are the stacool 3 scratchers you are talking about? can't find the 3. link?
 

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Polaris must have built one hell of a sled if the biggest complain is the scratchers.
Hopefully they fixed the jackshaft and fuel management and bogging issues so there wont't be! The 2022s have a lot of potential.
 
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