Yes you are right, when Ski Doo brought out their turbo they sent them to dealers to let people test ride them, for 3 months any one could test ride these turbos, and they beat the **** out of them, I don`t see Polaris doing that. now why is that ? some people walk around with blinders on. and yes i snow checked one, but after seeing it in person and watching videos of it I am not so sure i want one.
I don't think it's bad that they're still tweaking and working on things like tunes and clutching. I understand the idea that if they have had this out for two years it should be more dialed but I doubt this engine has been in the chassis for that period of time with this clutch etc. It's probably just now all coming together for larger scale use in the last few months. I know several guys that were part of the new Ford Bronco testing offroad, they talk about Ford interviewing them after a test drive and asking them very pointed questions about the handling or how the engine was behaving at very specific points in their drive. It turned out that Ford engineers had all of their sensors, cameras, and testing equipment logging everything and they needed driver feedback to know how to handle the data they had. There were changes being made even as Ford was unveiling the Bronco to the public.
Maybe you should go back to the Skidoo forum and complain about there products. I personally don't see the point of bashing a sled that you say you have snowchecked and comparing the marketing approach utilized to doo. Give up your snowcheck and buy something else. there will be thousands of others that would gladly take it. Loser!
That`s funny they advertise that it maintains the same Hp from 0 feet to 11,000 with NO CLUTCH changes,
It sounds like you should send in a resume to Polaris then since you know so much, just think of all of the improvements you could make!
And no manufacturer has ever tested a bunch of different clutching setups in prototypes?
No one. Any clutch that has clutch weights can obviously have too much or too little weight in it. It's entirely possible the weights were too light period, or it came from an area >11000 ft. It stands to reason in a turbo sled that compensates for altitude can use the same weights across a spectrum of altitude, as it's making roughly the same power across a spectrum of altitude. They can still be testing setups that might work better for one area that don't work well in another area, and elevation is just one part of the picture. Not to mention on the proto sleds, they also often roll around with a computer trying different tunes and all that as well....it's not cut and dry. I rode the 850 prototypes back in spring 2018....we had 3 sleds, and they all ran noticeably different, with different tunes and clutching changes. Just the way it is with "test" models.
WOW, did you read the other posts ? they said they have been testing for 2 years, so what you are saying is that they only tested in the same conditions ? and now they are seeing what works best under certain conditions ?
Yup - they had a bunch of test sleds on our mountain yesterday. My dealer who is a championship hillclimb racer was hosting. I see absolutely nothing wrong with them continuing to test. Whatever testing they were able to accomplish in secret over the last couple of years had to be extremely limited and now that the thing is no longer a secret they can begin to build a significantly larger data base based on real world conditions across a wide spectrum of riders which will indeed result in tweaking of various aspects. Why does anyone think that that is a bad thing? Good grief!
OK, how long do you think it takes to test, clutch and tune a turbo sled ? 2 years, 3 years or 4 years,
Please don`t take this as bashing, Polaris makes good sleds as well as all of them do, I just do not like it when Polaris comes out and says they have been testing for 2 or more years and that HP levels are the same from 0 feet to 11,000 feet with NO CLUTCH changes, that is BS, I am not saying that sled is no good, in fact I said in a early post, it`s the hottest thing out there this year, and I love it, We all win from Polaris bring out a factory turbo, in fact i snow checked one, to compare with my Ski doo factory turbo, but After the BS i hear and the videos i see, i doubt what Polaris is saying is the truth, not bashing the sled, stating facts, nothing that will not be fixed for next year, just stating facts as i see them, no doubt it`s going to be the best Polaris sled they have put out to date. i am not a die hard Ski Doo lover, after all i had an 2008 and 2009 dragon 800 twisted turbos, how sad is that, lol. had a 2012 pro on juice.Wow - lots of bashing here. @1709 - you make some great points. Keep them coming. I have one ordered and fully expect there to be some hiccups. I am excited for the sled, but 10-20 demo sleds will not find all the bugs as 3000 sleds. I have had great luck with first year polaris products 2011 pro, 2016 axys, 2020 pro 4 xp SXS, and luckily I missed some of the not so great first year products. Doo - I hit some not so great first year like 2008 xp for one. My experience was I have lost 2 doo engines and zero polaris, so I buy polaris for now. the skidoo turbo is a great sled and for the money, probably a better deal!! I just prefer the polaris chassis and clutching and super excited about the matrix slash boost. Fingers crossed for a great first year, but I am okay if I have to change my clutching a bit - I do that to all my sleds, even the skidoos
I mean to be fair if they are maintaining HP they shouldn't need to change the clutching?
