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Trail tech voyager for us doo owners

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Came across this today in s trailtech forum...


Here is some info I posted a while back on my snowbike page that may be helpful. When the internal battery dies you will not maintain your settings as you have noticed. Get it fully charged and it will work much better. You will see the charging icon when it’s charging and the battery meter will eventually fill itself indicating a full charge. Once you disconnect charging the battery indicator will still show full but will turn red and charging icon will not show.

One thing that has not been explained clearly is that the unit does not charge when it’s off.

No matter what the charge settings are. There should be no power draw from the unit when it’s off.

In order to charge the unit, it must be on. Not sleeping either. Screen must be lit. This means if you connect to wall charger you must turn it on and then go turn off your sleep setting AND set it to charge always. (should be set already but If you have it set in charge when running it will not charge without tach wire signal)

Once it’s fully charged you can reset those two settings if you need too and put in on your bike and away you go.

As far as on the bike goes, I have found if you connect it with switched power rather than constant power my VP battery eventually dies. This is mostly because we stop often and it’s on a snowbike so it’s in the cold typically.

I recommend connecting directly to your battery (with fuse) rather then switched power, and riding with sleep settings on and charge always set.

It will not kill your bike battery even if your settings are set to charge always!

Charge always means whenever the unit is on it draws charge from the bike.

Charge when running means that it only draws charge from the bike when it’s on and the bike is running, once you shut the bike off the VP flips over to running on its internal battery.

What’s the difference you say? Well when you shut your bike off frequently and you have sleep set to one minute, each time you stop you start to deplete the internal battery for the time your VP stays on until it goes to sleep. Once it goes to sleep it stops charging. Once it wakes up it charges again. If you don’t have long run cycles between shut offs it will not fully recover. Eventually it draws the internal battery down to zero.

Keep in mind that after 10 minutes in sleep mode the VP shuts off entirely so no more draw from bike.

This protects your bike battery from getting drawn down so these setting keep your VP battery full and your bike safe. The only risk would be if you were to turn off sleep settings and leave the unit on and walk away from your bike.

Typically after sitting for a while the internal battery seems to die so I take my VP inside and connect to wall charger and fully charge the battery. It can take 6-8 hours if it’s totally dead.

Then it works great and I have no issues.

If you start your day with a less than full battery you may end up with these issues.

Aluminum dock, wired to constant power, and keep battery fully charged before your ride and they have been very reliable.
I have two of these on my bikes.
1 on my moto Husky TE300i
1 on my KLR650 adventure bike
Both are hardwired to the batteries.
The biggest blunder IMO is having to charge these when the units while its powered on. The original Voyager could be charged while off, like a phone.
On my KLR650, the internal battery will drain on its own. Even with constant 12v bike power, the unit will turn On and Off several times trying to gain enough power to charge itself.
While updating the OS on my Husky, I left it on while trying to charge the internal battery. Needless to say it killed that small bike battery in less than one week.
I have a third unit I was going to share between my G4 and my SxS in the summer.
I'm having second thoughts if its worth the effort to install it now...plus I don't ride with any Polaris boys and the Doo guys don't seem interested in this gauge setup.
 

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My battery has been hooked to the sled for a couple weeks now and it is still fully charged. The zener diode in the charging circuit works great. I have been running the first half of the day on the battery and then turning on the high beams and charge it the last part of the day.
OK, I am missing something. I have tied into the accessory connection under the gauge panel for voltage from the sled to the voyager pro. What does turning on the high beams have to do with that circuit?
 

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OK, I am missing something. I have tied into the accessory connection under the gauge panel for voltage from the sled to the voyager pro. What does turning on the high beams have to do with that circuit?
My accessory plug has three wires red, black, and grey. Red and black is constant 12V. Grey and black is 12V power Only when the high beams are on.
 
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Ok I got mine all mounted and wired up.

I ended up buying the Ski Doo / Lynx accessory USB port.

I spliced into it and made a pigtail for the trail tech power.

Trail tech charges while the sled is running ( not while gauge is on, probably would have to splice into the other side wiring where the phone plugs in if I wanted that )

I'll see how this goes if i'm constantly killing the trail tech i'll wire it to the battery instead. ( and remember to turn Trail Tech off at end of day lol )

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Ok I got mine all mounted and wired up.

I ended up buying the Ski Doo / Lynx accessory USB port.

I spliced into it and made a pigtail for the trail tech power.

Trail tech charges while the sled is running ( not while gauge is on, probably would have to splice into the other side wiring where the phone plugs in if I wanted that )

I'll see how this goes if i'm constantly killing the trail tech i'll wire it to the battery instead. ( and remember to turn Trail Tech off at end of day lol )

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This is basically how I did mi e as well. I bought a g4 Accessory splitter from SPX to do the same.

We as a group, pull our VPs at the end of the day, us a separate dock and partially charge our off a 12V car battery after each ride. We also turn off the unit at lunch or extended stuck times as per trailtechs suggestion. But they either don't understand my request or don't have a solutions, but they won't give me a wiring diagram or recommendation for setting an auxiliary battery on a sled that doesn't have one. I like Highvoltage's solutions, but low voltage wiring and understanding of cycling current directions is beyond my knowledge
 

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This is basically how I did mi e as well. I bought a g4 Accessory splitter from SPX to do the same.

We as a group, pull our VPs at the end of the day, us a separate dock and partially charge our off a 12V car battery after each ride. We also turn off the unit at lunch or extended stuck times as per trailtechs suggestion. But they either don't understand my request or don't have a solutions, but they won't give me a wiring diagram or recommendation for setting an auxiliary battery on a sled that doesn't have one. I like Highvoltage's solutions, but low voltage wiring and understanding of cycling current directions is beyond my knowledge
This is what I did. (for reference only).
I’m no electrical engineer so I paralleled the diodes just to make sure that if the battery is really low that I wouldn’t overload the diodes on a high charge rate, but don’t know if really needed. If you aren’t going to use the sled for more than a few days I suggest to unplug the battery.


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Using some battery connectors with built in fuses makes life easier. I positioned the connectors so I can remove the hood and just pull the connectors apart.IMG_3679.png
 
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I'm thinking if I wire mine to my stock battery, I won't really need the diode thing? just a fuse. It only draws power when trail tech is on to charge it I think anyway. So if I forget to turn off trail tech I guess I could kill my battery but whatever.

Gonna ride with it how it is for awhile with it only powered when sled is running see how that goes.
 

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I'm thinking if I wire mine to my stock battery, I won't really need the diode thing? just a fuse. It only draws power when trail tech is on to charge it I think anyway. So if I forget to turn off trail tech I guess I could kill my battery but whatever.

Gonna ride with it how it is for awhile with it only powered when sled is running see how that goes.
If you’re wiring it to the stock battery, it already has protection, and you don’t need the diode.
 
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Rode 3-4 hours today with a bunch of stops.

Had both trail tech and big gauge GPS going.

Big Gauge kills my phones battery faster than it can charge ( if it even charges )

Trail Tech internal battery worked fine, its still got a full battery with a bunch of stops today, sled kept it topped off. ( I pre charged it to 100% with an RC Battery the other day, so it was full before the ride )

My phone on the other hand was at 100% before the ride and while plugged into the factory dash with the BRP GO app go its now at 70%. after like a 3 hour ride lol...
 

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UPDATE!

Got my voyager pro to read my SD Cards. Turns out even though I was using the proper file format when formatting, Window was doing something to make the cards unreadable on the Voyager. I had my son who is in IT figure it out. As soon as we downloaded a 3rd party formatting software and used it, the cards now work. I shared this with ''trailtech so they can help others with this issue.
Thanks for this I was having same problem, downloaded 3rd party format program and Bob is your uncle. Card was visible and was able to transfer maps to Trailtech
 
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