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So has anyone been into the trees w/the M1100 yet? Most of our riding is in steep canyons and such. All the videos I see only show point and shoot type riding which is fun for a short while.
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Depends on what your definition of technical is and if you are a pro or a joe. Most times these threads go.... Ya no problem in the trees but we all know but might not admit that 4 stroke turbos shine in the open more than the trees.
I have a 2013 M1100T w / EVO BC250 kit, lightweight battery, & exhaust, vented panels & EXIT shocks frt / rear. It is definitely rideable in the trees, but you need a combination of physical size, condition, and riding ability. My last 6 trips out were socked in, and no choice but to pick around in the lumber. I was tired at the end of each day, but in all fairness I would have been tired on a two stroke, too. When (not if) you get stuck, you will hate life. The simple fact is the 4 stroke feels (and is) heavier then the 2 stroke, and will always be. The 2013 M1100 is a great sled that will do it all if you are a capable rider, but riding the trees will always be easier on a lighter machine.
P.S. - the stock skis are crap, buy a set of SLP Powder Pros, or pretty much anything wider then the stockers.
I am 5'5 and 170 pounds and LOVE my Proclimb 1100T in the trees. It took me a few rides to learn how to use the power to make the sled feel lighter. I use a lot of counter steer and rider input and ride all day with the Pro RMK's and 2 stroke Cats.
Back in 2012 after the first 2 days riding the 4 stroke I was ready to sell the machine and go back to a 2 stroke. However once I stopped trying to ride the sled like my old M8 my eyes were opened.
This year I put on the narrower a-arms, 2.5 camoplast extreme track, vertical steering and the evo 215 mountain flash with some clutching from WKM in Llyodminister. These modifications made the sled way easier to ride and way more fun. And in 4' of fresh snow I was pulling out Pro's all day long in the trees. They just couldn't get enough track speed to keep moving.
I have been riding in the mountains for 14 years now and I have never had a more fun to ride and capeable mountain sled then my 1100T. The only time I get tired when I ride my sled is I get it stuck. The weight of a 4 stroke really shines in a 5' deep trench on a flat surface in the trees. haha
We play in the trees every time the weather is bad, which is more often than I'd like lol. Clutching and some Evo parts to enhance turbo spool makes it a lot easier to manage. In any situation other than the down hill turn I'd rather had the low speed torque of the 4s. I used to ride trees with a 320hp MCX Apex, you want to talk about lag in the trees.....consider yourselfs lucky.