Summit Expert VS Summit X

[Frankthetank79]

What’s the difference other than the obvious t-motion seems like Skidoo added some accessories to the X there isnt a big difference anymore between the two.

Same as an Expert:

-Shock package is the same
-Adjustable brake lever
-Adjustsble limiter strap
-Same riser
-34” front end
-Same running boards?

Expert Extras
-DS4 skis
-low rise seat
-hand guards

Missing anything?


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[MTsled3]

Flex edge track on the X, non flex-edge on the Expert, otherwise everything you listed. Seems like they have a lot of models and they're blending together

 

[kittykitty_900]

Also new aluminum brake master cylinder/reservoir for the Expert, rear track shock is the KYB Pro 36 EA-3 on the Expert vs the Summit x just has the 36 Plus

 

[greenthumb]

From what I can tell, the difference is:

-rigid rear arm
-long rod track
-piggyback rear shock
-stiffer shock calibration
-DS4 skis
-hand guards
-shot is standard
-ultra compact seat


It appears they both have:

-new brake reservoir
-adjustable lever
-adjustable limiter
-same 4.7" riser

 

[kittykitty_900]

The regular Summit x in the release last night did not have the new brake reservoir

 

[greenthumb]

The regular Summit x in the release last night did not have the new brake reservoir

Those are prototype units.
The spec sheets don't show a difference and in the model configuration pics, it's there on the X.
At this point, there is potential it could go either way knowing brp. Perhaps it will come out in the q&a.

 

[Frankthetank79]

Also new aluminum brake master cylinder/reservoir for the Expert, rear track shock is the KYB Pro 36 EA-3 on the Expert vs the Summit x just has the 36 Plus

Forgot about the piggyback shock on the expert. I thought the X package got the new aluminum master cylinder. Will have to check back on that


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[christopher]

What’s the difference other than the obvious t-motion seems like Skidoo added some accessories to the X there isnt a big difference anymore between the two.

Same as an Expert:

-Shock package is the same
-Adjustable brake lever
-Adjustsble limiter strap
-Same riser
-34” front end
-Same running boards?

Expert Extras
-DS4 skis
-low rise seat
-hand guards

Missing anything?


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Just speaking for ME.
But the biggest difference between the two were

Flex Edge Track and T-Motion vs. Non-Flex Track and Non-T-Motion.

If you seriously spend a good portion of your riding ON EDGE sidehilling and want razor sharp control of your edge, GET THE EXPERT.
Otherwise consider the Summit X as the better all around general purpose mountain sled.

I sold my brand new 23 Turbo Expert the evening that I took delivery of it.
Took it out for one day and hated it.

Last night I snow Checked a 24 Summit X Turbo.
Can't wait for that next year.

 

[caper11]

What’s the difference other than the obvious t-motion seems like Skidoo added some accessories to the X there isnt a big difference anymore between the two.

Same as an Expert:

-Shock package is the same
-Adjustable brake lever
-Adjustsble limiter strap
-Same riser
-34” front end
-Same running boards?

Expert Extras
-DS4 skis
-low rise seat
-hand guards

Missing anything?


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Expert has stiffer shock valving.


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[Frankthetank79]

Just speaking for ME.
But the biggest difference between the two were

Flex Edge Track and T-Motion vs. Non-Flex Track and Non-T-Motion.

If you seriously spend a good portion of your riding ON EDGE sidehilling and want razor sharp control of your edge, GET THE EXPERT.
Otherwise consider the Summit X as the better all around general purpose mountain sled.

I sold my brand new 23 Turbo Expert the evening that I took delivery of it.
Took it out for one day and hated it.

Last night I snow Checked a 24 Summit X Turbo.
Can't wait for that next year.

I was one of the few that was never against t motion or never felt like it hindered me. I noticed this year moving to the expert I was more tired at end of day when snow conditions were less than ideal. When the snow is handlebar deep it dosent seem to matter between t motion and non t motion anyways.

With them narrowing the gap between the Expert and X package I may go back to t motion.


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[Frankthetank79]

Expert has stiffer shock valving.


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Thinking about going back to t motion and putting the savings towards getting back on Enzo next season missed those shocks this season.


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[caper11]

Thinking about going back to t motion and putting the savings towards getting back on Enzo next season missed those shocks this season.


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Solid plan dude!

 

[salmonbum]

As mentioned above, I feel I'm much more tired at the end of the day on the Turbo as I am the NA. I'm also one that has zero issues with the T Motion. I can go anywhere my buddies go on their Poo's. Everyone wants to blame the T motion, when I really think its suspension setup and good ski rubbers that help hold ya horizontal on a sidehill. When you wanna doo Wheelies, your sled aint gonna sidehill good. Gotta pick your desire and set up for that.

Right now I have a 21 Turbo 165 and a 2018 X 165. I'm gonna snowcheck 2 this yr and thinking a 165 Turbo Expert for the DEEP days we get here and a 154 NA "X" for the not soo deep when the snow is only good back in the trees.

 

[christopher]

I was one of the few that was never against t motion or never felt like it hindered me. I noticed this year moving to the expert I was more tired at end of day when snow conditions were less than ideal. When the snow is handlebar deep it dosent seem to matter between t motion and non t motion anyways.

That was my intial transition from my Yamahas over to the Ski-Doos.
I was SO MUCH less tired at the end of the day as it just took MUCH LESS EFFORT to go out and have fun on the sled.

For me, The Summit-X is the perfect combination of what I want for an all around great mountain sled.

 

[christopher]

As mentioned above, I feel I'm much more tired at the end of the day on the Turbo as I am the NA.

WHY do you suppose that is the case??

 

[salmonbum]

WHY do you suppose that is the case??

Well, the NA weight savings its definitely felt, and because it has so much damn power it pulls your arms out of the sockets. I have found I only need the turbo when its a 3+foot dump and I'm there when its happening. Other days than that I take my NA and it follows all my buddies turbos just fine.

 

[christopher]

Well, the NA weight savings its definitely felt, and because it has so much damn power it pulls your arms out of the sockets.

I have found that the more my arms are pulled, the BIGGER the smile on my face becomes

 

[salmonbum]

I have found that the more my arms are pulled, the BIGGER the smile on my face becomes

I cannot argue with that statement . Thats why I have one of each.

 

[straightup]

I currently ride a 23 expert turbo and a lynx 23 shredder DS 4100. Love them both! Lynx is easier to ride holds lines better and easier to bring over. I have never liked t motion been deleting it since 2017 850.
I’m currently thinking I will order summit x remove t motion put in xt lock out with flex edge track. All my previous sleds with this set up held side hill effortlessly. Then add handguards full fox float shocks all way around with set of slydog attack skis. And still be at the price of a expert.

 

[caper11]

I actually find my G5 expert easier to ride than my G4 turbo with the same suspension valving and the tmotion, I’m not over riding and try to anticipate what weird movements my old sled had.
Maybe it’s sled setup? I’m not trying to cancel anyone’s opinion just sharing my experience. I feel like I have more energy at the end of the day riding my G5.
I absolutely love this sled, I wish BRP would talk to the dealers about the two piece shaft and the Hyvo tho.


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