Boondocker Naturally Aspirated Control Box Tech Support.

[1M800]

M7 Boondocker

If the APV on the 1000 stays consistent regardless of altitude, than you should have no problem adjusting fuel with the rpm ranges. Than the better option may be to run lo, mid, hi, off TPS.

Good info…thank you…




Yes this box should work on your 06 700, but it will not work on a Dragon.



I’m not sure what kind of adjustment you’ll need to make for you head.

Once you have it tuned for you 1,400 ft. the ECU should take care of minor altitude changes, but you will most likely want a different map when riding at your 8,000-10,000 ft.

Thanks again for all the questions guys.
Junior

From what I have heard I may not to need to make any adjustments for the head. But where should I start at for 1400'. I need some place to start! Also if the stock ECU will adjust it from 1400' up to 10000'+ I'm not sure I understand why it won't do the same thing with the Boondocker? Why will I need a different map for higher elevations? Once I have it set won't it be good for all elevations and temps?

 

[t1000summit]

I have a 06 Summit 1000 that I have crankshop twin pipes and a boondocker box for I put them on last year and blew the thing up in 10 miles. It was my own fault I've never tuned on a sled much. I'm getting the itch to put the stuff back on can you help me with numbers to start with or the correct way to tune with an egt gauge. Thanks

 

[minie me]

to start: if the temp is over 1150-1250(depends on who you ask) add fuel!

 

[t_hoffman]

I was in Golden, BC for the weekend...Rode Quartz Creek sat and sunday. I have a 2008 M1000. Rode it completely stock all last year...this is my set up for this year.

Boondocker fuel control (I ran the box using duty cycle fueling since I dont have TPS wire kit yet)
speedwerx lightweight intake
speedwerx y-pipe, single pipe, and can
RKT 14:1 head
RKT secondary conversion with rock rollers (sno pro green spring in the middle hole, helix is a straight 36)
Primary spring stock, primary weights stock 80G (overrevving to about 7600rpm..will be adding Dalton adjustable primary weights to get revs down to 74-7500rpm)
Elevation 7500-9000 ft.
Fuel : 50/50 mix of 91 octane pump and VP C111

Sled ran really good and pulled HARD..I am very impressed. It is a completely different sled from stock last year.

The only complaint that I have is a bog/hesitation around 6500rpm. Sled runs good on the bottom and really rips when I hold it WIDE OPEN..... EGT's ran as hot as 1150 on some longer pulls but never over 1150.... I could not tell if the 6500 rpm bog was lean or rich.... I added a bunch of fuel on the boondocker at 6500rpm and it seemed to make it worse. I was hesitant to go any leaner but the sled seemed to run better....Seemed to only happen at around 6500 when the exhaust valve began to open? Could this be remedied using the exhaust valve fueling option with the boondocker box? or maybe it is loading up with fuel a little bit at low rpm and doesnt clean out until the throttle is to the bars? Any suggestions to clean up the engine in the partial throttle range?

Here is the boondocker settings that I ended up using...

3000 -3 -3 -3 0
5000 0 -1 0 0
6500 -4 -4 -4 0
7200 -1 6 26 0
7500 0 5 26 0
7800 0 6 26 0

Thanks

 

[Skinner]

I was in Golden, BC for the weekend...Rode Quartz Creek sat and sunday. I have a 2008 M1000. Rode it completely stock all last year...this is my set up for this year.

Boondocker fuel control (I ran the box using duty cycle fueling since I dont have TPS wire kit yet)
speedwerx lightweight intake
speedwerx y-pipe, single pipe, and can
RKT 14:1 head
RKT secondary conversion with rock rollers (sno pro green spring in the middle hole, helix is a straight 36)
Primary spring stock, primary weights stock 80G (overrevving to about 7600rpm..will be adding Dalton adjustable primary weights to get revs down to 74-7500rpm)
Elevation 7500-9000 ft.
Fuel : 50/50 mix of 91 octane pump and VP C111

Sled ran really good and pulled HARD..I am very impressed. It is a completely different sled from stock last year.

The only complaint that I have is a bog/hesitation around 6500rpm. Sled runs good on the bottom and really rips when I hold it WIDE OPEN..... EGT's ran as hot as 1150 on some longer pulls but never over 1150.... I could not tell if the 6500 rpm bog was lean or rich.... I added a bunch of fuel on the boondocker at 6500rpm and it seemed to make it worse. I was hesitant to go any leaner but the sled seemed to run better....Seemed to only happen at around 6500 when the exhaust valve began to open? Could this be remedied using the exhaust valve fueling option with the boondocker box? or maybe it is loading up with fuel a little bit at low rpm and doesnt clean out until the throttle is to the bars? Any suggestions to clean up the engine in the partial throttle range?

Here is the boondocker settings that I ended up using...

3000 -3 -3 -3 0
5000 0 -1 0 0
6500 -4 -4 -4 0
7200 -1 6 26 0
7500 0 5 26 0
7800 0 6 26 0

Thanks

What altitude do you run. It sounds really close to my set up and i just installed a BD box this weekend. I would like to have so starter numbers. Thanks

 

[Skinner]

I was in Golden, BC for the weekend...Rode Quartz Creek sat and sunday. I have a 2008 M1000. Rode it completely stock all last year...this is my set up for this year.

Boondocker fuel control (I ran the box using duty cycle fueling since I dont have TPS wire kit yet)
speedwerx lightweight intake
speedwerx y-pipe, single pipe, and can
RKT 14:1 head
RKT secondary conversion with rock rollers (sno pro green spring in the middle hole, helix is a straight 36)
Primary spring stock, primary weights stock 80G (overrevving to about 7600rpm..will be adding Dalton adjustable primary weights to get revs down to 74-7500rpm)
Elevation 7500-9000 ft.
Fuel : 50/50 mix of 91 octane pump and VP C111

Sled ran really good and pulled HARD..I am very impressed. It is a completely different sled from stock last year.

The only complaint that I have is a bog/hesitation around 6500rpm. Sled runs good on the bottom and really rips when I hold it WIDE OPEN..... EGT's ran as hot as 1150 on some longer pulls but never over 1150.... I could not tell if the 6500 rpm bog was lean or rich.... I added a bunch of fuel on the boondocker at 6500rpm and it seemed to make it worse. I was hesitant to go any leaner but the sled seemed to run better....Seemed to only happen at around 6500 when the exhaust valve began to open? Could this be remedied using the exhaust valve fueling option with the boondocker box? or maybe it is loading up with fuel a little bit at low rpm and doesnt clean out until the throttle is to the bars? Any suggestions to clean up the engine in the partial throttle range?

Here is the boondocker settings that I ended up using...

3000 -3 -3 -3 0
5000 0 -1 0 0
6500 -4 -4 -4 0
7200 -1 6 26 0
7500 0 5 26 0
7800 0 6 26 0

Thanks

I see your elevation. sorry i guess i should read it all.

 

[t_hoffman]

I see your elevation. sorry i guess i should read it all.

no worries, its alot of info in one post....If you are running this same set-up go the the "artic-cat" section of the forum and look for a thread called "2008 M1000 set up and testing".....Some of the guys on the forum are suggesting that my numbers might be a little on the rich side, and that may be causing the slight bog.... going to try and turn down the 7200 settings a little bit. Currently at 26, going to try and go down to 20 for the 7200 HI setting.

 

[Squeal]

What altitude do you run. It sounds really close to my set up and i just installed a BD box this weekend. I would like to have so starter numbers. Thanks

Skinner - Do you have egts or O2 sensor? PM me, I can get you started.

 

[1M800]

No reply. Can anyone on here give me some numbers to start with on a basically stock M7? I know improvements can be made from stock but I don't know where to start! I bought the sled used and the guy I bought it from gave me no place to start.

 

[Snakeriveryamaha]

07 apex w/bd turbo

Turn key on and dumps fuel into intake, this box was just fixed by you guys.....wires crossed? Something im missing? Thanks

 

[savedbygrace]

Turn key on and dumps fuel into intake, this box was just fixed by you guys.....wires crossed? Something im missing? Thanks

Where is your control box grounded?

I had a sand rail come in this summer with a turbo Apex engine, it would flood the engine as soon as he turned the key on. He had his control box grounded to one of the coil bolts on the valve cover. The valve cover sits on a rubber gasket, and the valve cover bolts also have rubber gaskets between them and the valve cover, so he had no ground. This is the only box I’ve seen flood the engine when you’d turn the key on.

Check your ground, and let me know.

Thanks
Junior

 

[Skinner]

Skinner - Do you have egts or O2 sensor? PM me, I can get you started.

A/F Gauge. PM sent. Thanks

 

[Skinner]

no worries, its alot of info in one post....If you are running this same set-up go the the "artic-cat" section of the forum and look for a thread called "2008 M1000 set up and testing".....Some of the guys on the forum are suggesting that my numbers might be a little on the rich side, and that may be causing the slight bog.... going to try and turn down the 7200 settings a little bit. Currently at 26, going to try and go down to 20 for the 7200 HI setting.

I will check it out. Thanks

 

[bigd1000]

What's wrong M1000

2008 M1000
Speed werx Pipe,Y,Can
Rtk Head 14:1
Artic Cat intake
Elev 8000 to 10000

I have played with #'s at 7200 from HI 26 to 38 this makes no differnce on the color on the plugs
7500 HI 40
7800 Hi 40
Plugs look bone white trying to add fuel.
if I add fuel at 6500 HI from 6 to 10 it will fall on it's face.
Looking at everybody else numbers this thing should be pig rich.
Making wide open pulls at 7500 rpm

 

[mphfreak]

seeing there are a few guys with m1000`s here that are running speedwerx exhaust, Mine is being installed on my 08 this week. im running stock head.
will these numbers you are using gonna work for me as a baseline at 8000 feet?
thanks in advance.

 

[preston012088]

RKT 7 to 800 bb

Ive got and RK tek 800 BB with Speedwerx single and timbersled intake. Ive been doing some tuning runs at my house to try and get her tuned. I ride at 8000 plus ft. Does anyone have a similar setup that could give me some starting numbers? Im having a hard time tuning the midrange.

 

[PistonBroke]

just wanted to share an experience

Hey guys,

This is not a boondocker problem, but I thought it was and almost posted here with what would have been a wild goose chase.

Running Speedwerx Y-pipe, BDX intake on a 2007 M1000. I struggled, tuned tuned and tuned on the BD box until I was blue in the face and still couldn't get the sled to run right. Bogs, stumbles, EGT's and A/F #'s all over the place and one confused dude were the result.

Cause of the problem: Nose cone completely full of snow, restricting total airflow into the engine. Cleaned it out, sealed up the nose cone 100% and life is good.

Just thought I would share - check all the "normal" stuff and make it 100% OK before blaming your mods...

hope this helps someone,

Pistonbroke

 

[krat]

I have a CB with firmware version 5B5jBD on a 05 900 RMK
What target A/F numbers should I run my engine at? (ratio vs rpm vs load) The gauge is installed but not the O2 sensor yet. Should I put in the largest part of the pipe (next to the stock egt) or at the very end of the pipe, near the silencer?

thanks
krat

 

[krat]

ttt

 

[savedbygrace]

I have a CB with firmware version 5B5jBD on a 05 900 RMK
What target A/F numbers should I run my engine at? (ratio vs rpm vs load) The gauge is installed but not the O2 sensor yet. Should I put in the largest part of the pipe (next to the stock egt) or at the very end of the pipe, near the silencer?

thanks
krat

When you’re on the throttle, under load you want to see 13.5 on the o2, this will make the most power, when cruising or decelerating you will see bigger numbers. You can mount the sensor in the pipe, anywhere in-between the stock temp sensor ant the can.

Thanks
Junior