Rumors about New Gen 4 850 delivery for customers is delayed to january 2017??

NWaxys · Aug 10, 2016

The delivery is right on time, got call yesterday mine is here with one other in October. I think when they got the demo sleds back this year and they popped the top to see how they looked. Probably decided they'd get best results w more oil ???Still oiling the same or close to 800 e tec is not bad gig

Timbre · Aug 11, 2016

NWaxys said:
The delivery is right on time, got call yesterday mine is here with one other in October. I think when they got the demo sleds back this year and they popped the top to see how they looked. Probably decided they'd get best results w more oil ???Still oiling the same or close to 800 e tec is not bad gig

Makes total sense and a good call by doo doo. They will take some flack for it, for over selling and under delivering, but in the end, if engine life is extended, they did the right thing!

Timbre · Aug 11, 2016

NWaxys said:
The delivery is right on time, got call yesterday mine is here with one other in October. I think when they got the demo sleds back this year and they popped the top to see how they looked. Probably decided they'd get best results w more oil ???Still oiling the same or close to 800 e tec is not bad gig

Makes total sense and a good call by doo doo. They will take some flack for it, for over committing and under delivering, but in the end, if engine life is extended, they did the right thing!

Timbre · Aug 11, 2016

NWaxys said:
The delivery is right on time, got call yesterday mine is here with one other in October. I think when they got the demo sleds back this year and they popped the top to see how they looked. Probably decided they'd get best results w more oil ???Still oiling the same or close to 800 e tec is not bad gig

Makes total sense and a good call by doo doo. They will take some flack for it, for over committing and under delivering (as they should), but in the end, if engine life is extended, they did the right thing!

Bocephus · Aug 11, 2016

you should see the guys pissing and moaning on dootalk about it. there are a hand full of them completely off their rocker. 1 or 2 of them even claim to "not taking their snow check" because doo false advertised to them. :juggle:

mtn mike on boost · Aug 11, 2016

include a couple gallons of oil and I would feel compensated. might be a good PR move for them

summ8rmk · Aug 11, 2016

Could be like Cat and have 28:1.
1 quart of oil ($10)per tank of gas ($20).

GS6

LoudHandle · Aug 11, 2016

Bocephus said:
you should see the guys pissing and moaning on dootalk about it. there are a hand full of them completely off their rocker. 1 or 2 of them even claim to "not taking their snow check" because doo false advertised to them. :juggle:

They don't have a legal leg to stand on. That is why all manufactures include a sentence similar to this in any contract or spec sheet. "We reserve the right to change any specification at any time." In legalize it is a bit different, but you get the point.

sledhead_24_7 · Aug 11, 2016

If the oil was bumped back to what the 800 Etec uses, it is not a big deal. The 800 Etec does not use much once out of break in mode, so....

rocks rev · Aug 11, 2016

Bocephus said:
you should see the guys pissing and moaning on dootalk about it. there are a hand full of them completely off their rocker. 1 or 2 of them even claim to "not taking their snow check" because doo false advertised to them. :juggle:

Ya most of them that are pizzed are trail riders. :Cry:

rulonjj · Aug 12, 2016

Bocephus said:
you should see the guys pissing and moaning on dootalk about it. there are a hand full of them completely off their rocker. 1 or 2 of them even claim to "not taking their snow check" because doo false advertised to them. :juggle:

Buys $13,000 sled. Whines and moans because they have to spend another $40 a season on oil.:face-icon-small-con

Reg2view · Aug 12, 2016

rocks rev said:
Ya most of them that are pizzed are trail riders. :Cry:

Dootalk is filled with wankers now. Wasn't that way back in the days when the rev was released, but times do change, and you change with them. Including brands.

SummitRev

NWaxys · Aug 13, 2016

I don't care what the oil situation is I'll fill it every time I ride anyways or no matter how low the level is. If it's the same as 800 etec who cares. If guys wanna pass their sleds up well sucks for them cause I'm going to ride mine like I stole it. More oil means safer motor specs! Try riding axys turbo, I get 1 good ride or two decent ones before I'm putting oil in, but who cares the motor is awesome and a piston hasn't blown through my hood or anyone's I know so let's ride!

Bocephus · Aug 26, 2016

posted on dootalk from user "BRP care"

Hi all, with the help of our product specialist, I can now provide some more insight on the oil figure change:

This engine has been in the works for quite a while, and a huge amount of R&D has been done on it, not to mention a massive volume of stress testing. Furthermore, it was developed on our XPS full synthetic oil, just like the 800R E-tec before it.

We recognize that in real-world usage, not everyone who rides our vehicles uses the oil we recommend; some folks will continue to use other brands. Now, there is no way a manufacturer can test their engine on every available oil out there. Therefore, a decision was made to use more oil than originally calibrated for the sake of maximum and universal reliability. At Ski-Doo, you can understand that introduction of a new class-leading motor is a big deal, so reliability and performance have to be key factors, especially in its first year out.

I hope this helps shed more light on the topic. I'm working on getting answers to some of the other questions as we speak.

Have a great weekend everyone,

Steve

Motorbreath_ · Aug 26, 2016

Bocephus said:
posted on dootalk from user "BRP care"

Hi all, with the help of our product specialist, I can now provide some more insight on the oil figure change:

This engine has been in the works for quite a while, and a huge amount of R&D has been done on it, not to mention a massive volume of stress testing. Furthermore, it was developed on our XPS full synthetic oil, just like the 800R E-tec before it.

We recognize that in real-world usage, not everyone who rides our vehicles uses the oil we recommend; some folks will continue to use other brands. Now, there is no way a manufacturer can test their engine on every available oil out there. Therefore, a decision was made to use more oil than originally calibrated for the sake of maximum and universal reliability. At Ski-Doo, you can understand that introduction of a new class-leading motor is a big deal, so reliability and performance have to be key factors, especially in its first year out.

I hope this helps shed more light on the topic. I'm working on getting answers to some of the other questions as we speak.

Have a great weekend everyone,

Steve

:violin: What a load of bull.... I was strongly considering a BRP as my next sled. After all of these shenanigans I'm not so sure.

Bocephus · Aug 26, 2016

no matter what their excuse is.......what does it matter? they are making the engine BETTER. they are not charging you more money, other than a little extra oil. its not like they raised the price of the sled $500.

*** im not saying this engine will be holy grail because of this. nobody knows at this point. it may be a steaming pile of garbage like a pre 2014 polaris 800. who knows???? i dont understand how someone can be upset about getting a POTENTIALLY BETTER product.

1st claim by doo - engine uses 40% less oil
2nd claim by doo - engine uses more oil, but will be more reliable

dont be "that guy". you know which one you'd rather have.

sledheader · Aug 26, 2016

Honestly if I was one who ordered an 850, I would be happy about this. Say they were running 50:1 before (I don't know), 40% less would be in the neighborhood of 30:1. You have a twin cylinder engine below you cranking out 170 hp at 8000 RPM...that depends on oil for lubrication. The last think you want is no lube....

Motorbreath_ · Aug 26, 2016

So it doesn't sound like a lame excuse to anyone else?....
I just hate Ski-doo marketers. No doubt the sled is probably better now.. but Its just the way they go about selling sleds that gets under my skin.. sorry.. I'm going off topic. I'll just leave it at that. :juggle:

winter brew · Aug 26, 2016

More oil, more power through better ring seal. Good!
If it's like past etecs you can adjust oil output with BUDS. I have mine cranked up all the way :face-icon-small-win
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LoudHandle · Aug 26, 2016

It is not "class leading"! By making it over 800 it can not compete with the other 800's, it would have to compete in the next class up (racing wise).

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