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Looking at picking up an Alpha. Been reading on a few forum boards, and I've heard mention that you Can change the steering to get closer to Doo steering...

...what is needed to do so? And does it feel like a Doo?

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Post forward kit. Something like c3.
Essentially what ur doing is making the skis turn when u sidehill. Vertical post keeps the skis straight when u pull the sled on its side with the bars.
Laying the bottom post at an angle with the riser 90° to the ground forces the bars to turn when u pull on them sideways causing sidehilling issues, much more difficult to control the skis vs a vertical post that creates a natural nuetral position when pulling on the bars sideways.


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we actually call it the lay down post, its the same steering post off of a zr. most advanced cat riders go this route and ive actually seen polaris riders do it too since pretty much all trail sleds have a lay down style post so you can carve in and bite in a corner. For a side hill you actually get more leverage and a more natural position vs the straight post.
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we actually call it the lay down post, its the same steering post off of a zr. most advanced cat riders go this route and ive actually seen polaris riders do it too since pretty much all trail sleds have a lay down style post so you can carve in and bite in a corner. For a side hill you actually get more leverage and a more natural position vs the straight post.
4 stroke and some SE (base model) mountain sleds had the laydown post as well. Leverage should be the same given the same bar height and the riser is reasonably in-line with either post style to not get sweeping action with the bars. As to which one is more natural is rider preference.

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I sat on Chewy's sled with the 3" forward and it was too much forward for me to be comfortable. I'm 6'-2" and like my vertical steering with a 6" riser tipped forward 1" to 1-1/2". If I ever tried laydown steering maybe do 1" forward. Not sure that would be enough to run a taller riser without having to tip it forward and give me a bad bar swing.
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Yep I ran the 3 inch post forward on my 14. I agree with Boondocker it was a little to forward. I got use to it but prefer the vertical steering.
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So this "Lay down post" is a Cat part? Are there Modifications that you need to do to the air box or frame? Or plug and play?

... going back and forth on picking up an Alpha, or just getting another Gen 4. I love the steering of the Doo, Poo is too awkward, and the 18 Cat I rode last year seemed in between. But if a new post was an easy fix to have both sleds handle similar, I would be all over that!

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"Most" ??? I would disagree with that statement lol
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So this "Lay down post" is a Cat part? Are there Modifications that you need to do to the air box or frame? Or plug and play?

... going back and forth on picking up an Alpha, or just getting another Gen 4. I love the steering of the Doo, Poo is too awkward, and the 18 Cat I rode last year seemed in between. But if a new post was an easy fix to have both sleds handle similar, I would be all over that!

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Yes - pretty simple swap. Just a post and top plate where the vert post is. You could just cut the vert post but I’d keep as a unit and sale.
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So this "Lay down post" is a Cat part? Are there Modifications that you need to do to the air box or frame? Or plug and play?

... going back and forth on picking up an Alpha, or just getting another Gen 4. I love the steering of the Doo, Poo is too awkward, and the 18 Cat I rode last year seemed in between. But if a new post was an easy fix to have both sleds handle similar, I would be all over that!

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Post is a Cat part 1705-522 and swapped right in on the proclimb. Not sure if the Ascender plastic needs any trimming? If you can see the top of the secondary steering shaft going down I would think not. If you don't want to cut the stock post to get it out of the top of the frame support (or want to save it for the future) I'd get this piece as well 1707-570. Approximately $110 for the Cat post and $135 for the frame support.
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Just ride your Alpha stock for 5 rides then make a decision. Im not a fan of turn down steering.
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