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Simmons Gen 3 skis

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First:
They don't sidehill worth a hoot...

Oh wait.

Best sidehill cutting ski I have ever owned! Yeah... that's it! :face-icon-small-hap
This can be attributed to the outer "wing" design of the Gen III. It will allow the skis to cut into a sidehill without sinking in or washing out from under you.

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Secondly:

The dual keel design allows for exceptionally stable on trail behavior. The "camber tip" of the skis "unloads" one of the carbides on each ski while in a turn, so you are not strong-arming 4 carbides. (A brilliant engineering use of the natural Ackerman angle and long arm/short arm geometry inherent with this style of suspension)

When turning, only 1 carbide per ski is "fully" engaged with the hard pack. The carbides are also different from inside to outside of each ski to facilitate different cutting rates between each ski - again, refining handling characteristics.

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Above and below, you can see there are also lateral grooves between the keels to add a bit more straight line and turning stability. If you think these are inconsequential, think about "sipes" in a set of snow tires... the more cutting edges, the more traction. In addition, the is a slight bit of a concave shape between the keels. This lends itself to helping compact the snow beneath the ski, and hence creating better flotation in loose, deep snow.

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Lastly:

Note the spindle mounting location.

A ski with a mount in the center might turn a bit easier than one with it forward or rear of center?????

DUUUHH!!!!

It's a simple physics equation, wrapped with friction applied to the apparent fulcrum, mixed into rotational forces applied to a long or short lever... yada yada yada...

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I don't think it is necessary to reiterate the immense rough trail comfort benefits of the "flexi-ski" tip and loop design, or the pioneering that Simmons has done over the years. After all, what other aftermarket ski manufacturer has endured one of the "major 4" manufacturers stealing their design? Dunno, but it speaks volumes to their products!

All in all, OFT Racing gives a 10/10 to the new Simmons Gen 3 (Gen III). It will tame even the most rude handling Nytro on the hill. (I should know - I own it :face-icon-small-hap)





A++++ Val!
Keep innovation alive!!​

P.S. The skis pictured above are prototype models. Actual production models may vary.
 
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I didn't like them as much on my wife's 2006 600 RMK. They bit too much and made the front end too hard to steer.

I rode them this weekend on icy and SOME slushy snow with my GenII mod.
LIKED THEM. I'd throw on some Powder Pros and try them on my chassis too...BUT I REALLY liked them better than the orig Simmons on the GenII chassis WAY better.
Deeper keels are WAY BETTER. WAY BETTER. I liked these on the old non-rider forward chassis.

Hmmmmmm.

Next to the powder pros.
Skis are 8" wide. Keels are 3.5" apart.
Old simmons are about 6" wide right? Keels are about 5" on those, right?

Good to know, going to have to give them a try.
 

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Had the chance to try out a pair for a couple of rides last month. Used them for the snobque ride at Copper Creek last month and at Kings Hill 2 weeks later. I thought they worked great. Might have to get a pair next season.
 
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Chief, they work AWESOME! on the Msled anyways, I will get u reports from the XP soon.
I actually like the 6" better than the 10" on the M but when putting these new GenIII 8" w/3.5" keel makes it the best ski EVER! on most any brand I would think although Scott didn't like them on the 06RMK600...
 

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I must say though...I was having a hard time riding that day too because I had my son sitting on the gas tank in front of me.
 

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Wow Moto i just read your post to Val and he asked me to thank you....So Thanks Buddy that has got to be the best review i have ever read. YOU are awesome!

Shell

P.S. Val did a little changes and i think he is gonna send you another set to try and tell him which one you like better :)
 

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And this is a great pic to use in an Ad campain:



"Wanna peak?"

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I forgot to mention the VERY COOL ski alignment tabs centered at the front and rear of the skis. Just hook your tape on the tab and setting the toe becomes a 1 person, 2 minute job! (And it's accurate!)
 
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I guess I should have looked at it better, the keel design probably wouldn't work for the Hawk, being that they are not the same length. I did like the Idea of the 8" wide rather than the 10" but I'll stick with the genII for now. It works GREAT for my application and I am very happy with your product.
 
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