They are both bone stock. That is why i sold my 2020.5 turbo. Power is awesome but like i said it felt like a boat anchor. Had 5 gen 4s counting the turbo. Limiter full long and softened rear plus more pre load on fts. Maybe because i was riding an alpha for 2 year and it is so much easier than anything else, i don't know. I know my wife didn't like her expert or the turbo and that is all she rode since 17. She's on a 165 kaos now. The front suspension is the same. I am probably going to give the lynx a go for next year. I will put 34 inch arms and zrp spindles on it. Possibly mohawks. Hopefully that gets rid of the twitchy front end. That is the only problem I have with doo. I actually believe that doo needs the narrow front end because everyone else has caught up and is easier.