Edge sway bar delete...pros??cons??

[flatlander800]

How? why? pros? cons?

what do I need to do this? I have a proX without the sway bar and an edge with it....I would assume it gives more front travel. The proX shocks actually go up into the engine bay and have a upper support across the pipe where the edge shock mounts are out of the engine bay and it doesn't have the support over the pipe.

 

[Wayniac]

If you do any mountain riding then ditch the sway bar. My wife and I really liked the difference it made in side hilling, high marking, etc. It frees up the front end so the suspension works independently. All you have to do is drill out the rivets on the plastic mounting bushings and undo the rear bolt on one of the trailing arms and you can get the bar out with some finesse.

 

[flatlander800]

I consider myself an all terrain rider cause sometimes we have to wait a long time for good snow in MN and I end up ditch banging in snirt until I go to michigan. What was the bar intended for anyways? and will it compromise the durability by putting undo stress on some other part/parts?

 

[snowmobiler]

it helps stop the sled from swaying and rolling over on high speed trail corners.id leave it on if i was a flatlander.

 

[RockyMtn.Kris]

I would say if more that 50% of your riding is trail, I would leave it on.

 

[meathooker]

leave it on.

it makes the sled feel much more stable.

plus those sleds side hill so easy i don's see the point in taking it out.

 

[sled_guy]

It ties the front end together so that in corners as the outside ski loads and pushes up it forces the inside ski down so it can bite.

It also has the affect of increasing your spring rate and shock dampening.

If you pull it out you do NOT get more front end travel. The skis will work independant from each other so you will end up having to turn the springs way up to help with dive in the corner. It will never be as good as with the sway bar in, but the tighter springs it will be better. If you are running fox zero pros you can even get a heavier duty spring for them if you run without a sway bar.

I tried my Edge RMK without it and hated it... ended up putting it back in. It was harder for me to tree ride with it out even. As others have said, if you are trail riding much you will want to leave it in.

sled_guy

 

[alsled]

It ties the front end together so that in corners as the outside ski loads and pushes up it forces the inside ski down so it can bite.

It also has the affect of increasing your spring rate and shock dampening.


sled_guy

I agree with the 2nd part but. When the outside ski is compressing, what is happening is the spring pressure from the inside ski is pushing down on the swaybar, transfering over to the outside ski, adding spring pressure to that side to help the outside ski from compressing.

If you get on a sled with a sway bar and tip it way to the right the left ski comes up in the air, its not getting forced down. With out the sway bar if you tip your sled to the right, the left ski stays on the ground but the right collapsses more.

I have prox and broke the sway bar off on my last ride last year, At the time I didn't know what happened, the sled felt a little less responsive in the turns when there were no bumps, when I hit some woods that wer really moguled up my sled was handling better, but could feel some out side ski bottoming.

Stopped at the gas station for a break, were all talking and my buddy asked me when I took the sway bar out. I said I didn't, I looked and it was busted off. I dialed in some more spring load and so far I like what I'm feeling.

This year I put a little more spring load in and added 1 1/2 spacer to the crossover stack of my 4 and 9 inch springs. this will get the 9 inch in play quicker.

I'm looking forward to running no sway bar at this time.

If you can prevent roll with the spring, along with having the inside ski on the ground without the sway bar, i may be ahead of the game.

 

[RMK935VA]

I agree that the Edge chssis sidehills nicely with the sway bar attached. I have never rode one with the swaybar removed so I am not an authority on whether or not it would be worth taking out. I did notice that the new Assault does not have a swaybar from the factory. Interesting! I am not sure why they did that. It would seem that a swaybar would be a good idea for that particular sled even more than for a Dragon or RMK. Thoughts?

 

[miner700]

sway bar

i ride only in the mountains, we have a 02 700 rode about 6 times rolled it on it's side and took a sawzall and cut the sway bar off right at the bulk head easy to remove, then threw it away.
got a 03 vertical escape rode one time and did the same, just have to ride it more on the trail

 

[Scooter]

Leave it in. If you can't pull your machine over to side hill or to lay it over on it's side to be cool and do doughnuts with a little 1/2" sway bar, then you are not using the right technique to lay it over, or flat can't ride. I know most the new stuff comes without sway bars, but the manufactures compensate by increasing the spring rates, and I think they still ride like crap on the trail. If anything, unless you crank up your spring preload, your front suspension without the swaybay is going to be too soft and nose dive which will be a decrease in travel.

 

[m7bandit]

disconnect it but don't remove it just rotate it back up against the fender and secure with conduit clamps on both ends that way you get to see if you like it or not

 

[markis24]

Good post, I was thinking about removing mine as well on 03 Escape but haven't decided if it was worth it or not. Anyone have anymore feedback?

 

[mod03rmk800]

on my 03 edge, I feel the biggest improvement was when climbing and hitting off camber bumps the sled absorbs better without the bar. Also the slow speed boondocking in harder snow also became easier on the body. The trail stuff took some getting use to as the sled wants to roll around alot, but the way you can put a ski just off the trail and one on the woops makes for a better ride for me.
I would say that it takes a couple rides to get use to it being gone.I hate to ride my friends 04 ve with his still in now.
The biggest concern for me not having it was when coming down hill turning type stuff the sled would want to roll much easier collapsing the down hill shock very easily.

 

[nvrstuk]

Sway bar

If you ride trails at all and like to ride them fast, keep it in.

If the trail just takes you to the deep snow for playing in the trees all day, take it out.

When you pull the anti-sway bar you must increase your front spring rates or you will be disappointed IMO. Steep downhill corners (like you're turning back up the hill to climb it again) are almost impossible to make if you don't increase the front spring rate. This is because your downhill spring will be compressed so much that you're almost rolling over just sitting there (at 90deg to the hill).

I also narrowed up the front of my '03 Escape 1 1/4" on each side. Makes a world of difference for boondocking all day.

Still can't believe Polaris's "mountain sled" has the widest ski stance of almost any sled they've made in the past 10 years! I couldn't even fit 2 Escapes side by side on my sled deck without one ski on top of the other--not a problem for the past 4 yrs tho.

 

[spring snow hero]

having a sway bar on a mtn sled is like having a kids party at michael jackson's.....it just isn't right.

 

[alsled]

having a kids party at michael jackson's.....it just isn't right.

That is a disturbing thought.

 

[flatlander800]

I have Fox shocks in the front with dual springs from a Pro X race chassis and they are dialed way stiff already cause I like to catch air and the landings are always hard in MN!!!!! I think I might crank them up a little and try taking it out cause I am always the guy off in the trees and woods playing around and burn twice the fuel of everyone else LOL I guess the only true fit is trial and error for one particular rider thanks for the info guys!

 

[truthrider]

I took the bar off my 04 last year, made a difference riding in snow that was set up or not super deep. There is a noticable difference in trail cornering, have to slow down. Just have to decide if you like to trial or off trail ride. If you take it out, drill out the rivets, that way if you don't like the ride, just put it back in and your only out the cost of six rivets.