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how much we wanna bet there is a "revision" of the bulkhead/and or a-arms for next year. IMO a hit on the ski should not total the sled. early season blah blah blah still should not destroy the bulkhead.
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took the hood off tonight....worse then i thought.
Last weekend brake in ride marginal snow and some guys could not help themselves pounded several meadows to the point where you could see dirt everywhere, the count is at 4 sleds towed from doo alone and several from other Manufacturers.
If you hit stuff hard enough the right (wrong) way stuff will brake if you want to wine about it stay on the trail.
I would not shoot of my mouth about weak anything unless I see a trend. The RX1 and Apex bulkheads were the toughest bulkheads ever made on any sled with A arms and I did see some of them cracked as well--Again see paragraph above.
Anyway this bulkhead will weld rather easy make sure you know a guy who is handy with a Tig welder if you decide too tempt Mr Murphy.
I would have expected to fold an a arm, my a-arms appears to have taken no damage just the bulk head. Also no part of the bulk head made contact with the rock only the ski hit.
Lmao. Trolling the poo dudes that are trolling the doo section.
The A arm needs to be the first thing to bend. I really don't understand why this is such a difficult concept for ski doo to understand. Take your new protype out and run it into a tree. If it gets messed up beyond the A arms go back to drawing board. Or im sure they have safer ways of testing, but why does the consumer/aftermarket have to be the one who has to figure out how to fix there sleds with brace kits. I looked at this new chassis at the snowshow and knew instantly it would be a disaster. And im a highschool dropout. How is it that a team of engineers cant build something that can bend a A arm before self distructing. I will admit when I was looking at it i was more concerned about the area where bulkhead and tunnel atach. I thought the new bulkhead was gona bend A arms cause it didn't have a Nun anymore. But instead they just made it more difficult to fix with a huge one peice cast bulkhead that i would imagine is gona be expensive to swap out. On my old rev race sleds i used to use high grade bolts to atach the Nun and heavily reinforced the area behind it to stop the damage from transferring back. With the bolts in the Nun and no rivets i was able to change Nuns over night. I never had a xp or xm but they had similar design using a cast peice instead of Nun, but same basic design so same method can apply. The new sled is probably glued and gona be a pain in but and very pricey to fix.
I was mistaken it doesn't look difficult to swap out but definitely not a go back to truck and swap A arms type deal. I just wish they had made it bend the A arms first and then the suspension module. I was hoping they where gona build something tough that could trickle to the Freeride in a few years. I really like the Freeride just wish ski doo would make it a bit tougher.
The arrow may be off slightly from where the rock impacted the ski but it was fairly close to right under the spindle. It looks like it basically shoved the ski violently upwards until it had no travel left to go so it essentially acted like a hammer.
The arrow may be off slightly from where the rock impacted the ski but it was fairly close to right under the spindle. It looks like it basically shoved the ski violently upwards until it had no travel left to go so it essentially acted like a hammer.
if your theory was correct one would think it would have broken the top of the shock mount. it did not break there, it broke around the upper a-arm mount. its possible that shock binding pulled the a-arm out i suppose
Correct, along with all the forward momentum that came to an abrupt stop.
A sudden stop and stopping even a couple feet later are very very different things. I can't actually imagine you came to a dead stop with this little damage IMHO
Preventative Mods
One thing I do religiously is to take a grinder to the tip and back end of any carbide and grind it as flat as possible so it cannot hook a rock. I have seen many frond ends bend by simply biting a frozen in rock. I also believe in larger 8" sly dog skis that are more flexible than stock ones when you hit something the ski will bend and lift over rocks and logs much easier. This is where the ground down Carbide comes in -- there needs to be a super smooth transition from plastic to runner and carbide so the under a hard impact load all that force can bounce and slide over the obstacle. It has worked for me for the last 10 years staring with the first Gen 10s fro Simmons on the Yamaha's.
I was thrown from the sled and it traveled about 5 more feet forward then rolled twice before I was able to grab it. When it rolled it only contacted snow no rocks. I consider that an abrupt stop since I got thrown not a dead stop, that would have been even worse.