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Who's watching the debate tonight?

Idcatman3

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Did you vote for him when he was???

Nope. Couldn't have even if I'd have wanted to then. I've changed a lot in 20 years.

I dont like trump, i dont like her. But i cannot vote for her, and do not want her in. I do like the idea of giving trump a shot at running this like a business, its a new step to try. And lets be honest, at this point, its worth a shot. We ARE, financially doomed.

Trump's businesses have done so well. Also, look at what the deficit (not the national debt, but how fast it's growing) has done under various democratic and republican presidents. The republicans are as spendthrift as the democrats, but are also unwilling to pay for it.
 
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Trump is a prick! Trump is a loose cannon! EVERYONE HATES TRUMP! VOTE TRUMP!!!!
 

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The republicans are as spendthrift as the democrats, but are also unwilling to pay for it.

Factually incorrect.
While Bush was horrible regarding spending, Obama took it to a whole new level, spending more than all 43 presidents before him combined.
 

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Mark my words, there will be widespread voter fraud before this is over.
It will favor Hillary.
It will be obvious enough that we will realize it happened.
And the saddest part, the FBI will not pursue it.

Please call me out if I turn out to be wrong and I will eat my crow.
 
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Tax plan, health care plan, foreign relations plan/experience, temperment, lgbt/other minority rights, education plan. Shall I go on?

I'm sure I disagree with many of you here about many of those. That's fine. I don't expect you to agree, and I'm not trying to change your mind. If you support him for those same reasons, that's fine.

But he's also a misogynistic xenophobic dick who brags about assaulting women and getting away with it because he's famous. The main issue I have is people defending those views and statements.




You are correct, I LOVE his tax plan, you actually think that Hillarys "tax the rich plan" is going to work this time? It has never worked before...


The affordable care act is a complete disaster, it needs to go. How anybody could disagree with that is beyond me.


Clinton was one of the worst SoS we have ever seen but you are against Trumps plan to cut off money to other countries?

Thank you for confirming that it isn't me, it is people who think continuing along the path to further socialism will work. It has NEVER worked, it isn't working anywhere they are experimenting with it right now. GREAT PLAN!



Sticking with Trump for sure...
 
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Seem to remember Republicans being so outraged by Bill's infidelity that they tried to impeach him. A man with such low moral standards should not be president. But I guess now the same behavior is "just how guys are" Funny how quickly things have changed...





Pretty big difference between talking about it and getting caught in the act...


The passes you guys give the Clintons are amazing. Did you get to suck his d1ck too?
 

Idcatman3

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Pretty big difference between talking about it and getting caught in the act...

Pretty big difference between adultery and assault.


Mark my words, there will be widespread voter fraud before this is over.
It will favor Hillary.
It will be obvious enough that we will realize it happened.
And the saddest part, the FBI will not pursue it.

Please call me out if I turn out to be wrong and I will eat my crow.

What proof would satisfy you? Trump is already pushing the "election results are only valid if I win" line. There has never been substantiated evidence of widespread voter fraud.
 
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You are correct, I LOVE his tax plan, you actually think that Hillarys "tax the rich plan" is going to work this time? It has never worked before...


The affordable care act is a complete disaster, it needs to go. How anybody could disagree with that is beyond me.


Clinton was one of the worst SoS we have ever seen but you are against Trumps plan to cut off money to other countries?

Thank you for confirming that it isn't me, it is people who think continuing along the path to further socialism will work. It has NEVER worked, it isn't working anywhere they are experimenting with it right now. GREAT PLAN!



Sticking with Trump for sure...

Actually higher tax rates on higher incomes seems to be working pretty good north of the border... When has it been tried and failed in the states??

Although I havnt lived in the us since before the ACA it sure seems better than hearing of a single mother being denied coverage for a pre existing hangnail from 10 years ago and going bankrupt over a medical issue... Think about where it would be if both sides of the government actually worked together to inprove it instead of just blatantly opposing it without providing any better plan? You can't actually think the old system was better for the country as a whole?

How exactly are you worse off than 8 years ago? The assets I have in the states (and my friends and family that still live there) have done awesome since 2008...

Donald is like the emporer in return of the Jedi-"give into your hate..."
 

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I'm for Trump; Not because he's Republican, because he is not a career politician!

I find it as Sad, as the plight of this once great nation, how some of you can support Career Politicians to "Change" the mess they have made out of the country that benefits only themselves.

Maybe you are just stubbornly insane and refuse to admit that doing the same things will not produce different results.

This country needs a revolution! A restart like to when the USA was born. When there was no such thing as a politician or the political machine. When government was actually "THE PEOPLE"!

I find it sad how much of the country has their head up their azz and their hand out for their government check. I find it a shame how the political machine has bought your blind eye by paying you off with moneys you are neither entitled to nor have earned.

Hope you realize that a vote for Hilary is a yet another term of flushing this once great nation down the proverbial Toilet.

However a Vote for Trump is a "Wild Card" a chance to stir things up! Make a mess! Make people think again! Reverse some of the really stupid decisions of the past that brought this great nation to it knees.
 
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Couple of quick comments.
1) With the 300+million people living in the US, these were the 2 best people we could find?
2) Wonder what our current president is doing with executive orders? Really hate to see what his executive orders will be!!
Just my opinion, and yes I'm concerned about the outcome of the election and what our current presidents executive orders will be.
 
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I find it as Sad, as the plight of this once great nation, how some of you can support Career Politicians to "Change" the mess they have made out of the country that benefits only themselves.

Maybe you are just stubbornly insane and refuse to admit that doing the same things will not produce different results.

This country needs a revolution! A restart like to when the USA was born. When there was no such thing as a politician or the political machine. When government was actually "THE PEOPLE"!

I find it sad how much of the country has their head up their azz and their hand out for their government check. I find it a shame how the political machine has bought your blind eye by paying you off with moneys you are neither entitled to nor have earned.

Hope you realize that a vote for Hilary is a yet another term of flushing this once great nation down the proverbial Toilet.

However a Vote for Trump is a "Wild Card" a chance to stir things up! Make a mess! Make people think again! Reverse some of the really stupid decisions of the past that brought this great nation to it knees.

What are the specific changes you want to see? Specifics with solutions please, not just donnys talking points about what a disaster it is...

How exactly are you worse off than 8 years ago?

How is handing a growing deficit to the self professed "king of debt" who has had no problem running up huge deficits and using them to his advantage going to solve your issues?

I'm not saying there aren't things that need to change, but blindly swerving in a radically different direction with no idea where you are heading usually doesn't produce the desired results...
 

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What are the specific changes you want to see? Specifics with solutions please, not just donnys talking points about what a disaster it is...

How exactly are you worse off than 8 years ago?

How is handing a growing deficit to the self professed "king of debt" who has had no problem running up huge deficits and using them to his advantage going to solve your issues?

I'm not saying there aren't things that need to change, but blindly swerving in a radically different direction with no idea where you are heading usually doesn't produce the desired results...
Not to be rude but do you have a horse in this race?.........
 
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Not to be rude but do you have a horse in this race?.........

Yup. Dual citizen, file taxes in the states every year even though I don't currently reside there. I probably pay more taxes than Donny, guess that makes me stupid.

And my business benefits from nafta, I import items to Canada that are fabricated in the us.

But I have to agree, the whole world has a horse in this race.
 
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What are the specific changes you want to see? Specifics with solutions please, not just donnys talking points about what a disaster it is...

How exactly are you worse off than 8 years ago?

How is handing a growing deficit to the self professed "king of debt" who has had no problem running up huge deficits and using them to his advantage going to solve your issues?

I'm not saying there aren't things that need to change, but blindly swerving in a radically different direction with no idea where you are heading usually doesn't produce the desired results...

Voting for Trump will not change a gawd damn thing! It will, however, buy some time to figure out how to pull the good 'ol USofA out of the sh!t hole! A vote for FHRC will just push the "fast forward" button to said hole! VOTE TRUMP!!!!
 

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Pretty big difference between talking about it and getting caught in the act...


The passes you guys give the Clintons are amazing. Did you get to suck his d1ck too?

No I didn't but I did hear Monica was complaining that some dude going by Red Mtn gobbled his man juice so well he wasn't interested in her anymore, small world...
 
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Yup. Dual citizen, file taxes in the states every year even though I don't currently reside there. I probably pay more taxes than Donny, guess that makes me stupid.

And my business benefits from nafta, I import items to Canada that are fabricated in the us.

But I have to agree, the whole world has a horse in this race.

You are in the minority if you benefited from Nafta. The 600k plus who lost their jobs here darn sure didn't benefit! Or the farmers south of the border.
 
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Do you have any idea how high a tariff would have to be to make it not worth outsourcing? Are you really willing to pay 100%+ more for stuff? How about the jobs for the people who sell all the stuff that no one can afford to buy anymore? You want those wiped out too?

Do you really think manufacturers weren't outsourcing to Mexico before nafta? Were all those jobs you mention lost to nafta or is there a chance that if you look beyond all the crap that Donny spews that maybe automation and advances in fabrication and production might have had an impact?

Do you really think manufacturers are gonna turn around and spend millions to re-tool new factories and build stuff in the states if Donny gets his way? Not a freakin chance, they will just go to China and build it for even less. If he won't do a trade deal with them they will stop sending us stuff and things will stop in a manner that makes 1929 look really freakin good...

It's a global economy, get used to it and figure out how to benefit from it. Donny can't change that no matter how much horse**** he spews. Figure out how to keep up with the times or get used to sitting on the sidelines and whining.
 
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I can totally understand why you have no desire to see him in the White House! I'm assuming your business would not be doing as well if he negotiated a new trade deal??? Just out of curiosity... you import parts from the u.s. To manufacture a product in Canada and then ship the finished product back to the states for sale? Or is your product being sold in Canada. Oh and just and FYI.. I thought nafta was chit long before trumps campaign started. I may live close to the b.c. Border but that doesn't mean I smoke their weed!!!
I'm just assuming there's a reason your calling Canada home when you have dual citizenship?
 
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