Buying: 2011 Pro 163 or 2010 163 Boosted?

Jdub1177 · Oct 7, 2010

Okay... I need to know kinda quickly... What would you guys do?

BTW I'm not knew, I forgot my old log in, I've been off and on Snowest for 8 years, this isn't my first post.....

I've been a Ski-Doo guy since 2004 (prior Poo), had a few buddies show me up on 240hp Dragon's, and I really want one....but I've read about some sporadic issues... This Snowcheck 2010 is sold as new with a Boondocker Turbo...

The Pro is what it is, but not a spring model with the extended motor warranty... I like the light weight, but I couldn't turbo tell next year, and 150+ hp seems like I'd be going opposite of what I want to do...

What is the better move this year??

Jkinzer · Oct 7, 2010

i had a similar situation after pretty much totaling my sled last year...Buy a new pro, or build another turbo dragon. decided to build another dragon because i know the chassis, love the power, and didn't feel that the sled held me back at all. i know the turbo companies are bustin @$$ to get everything out for this season, but i didnt want to be a test bunny. i figure i'll let them get all the kinks worked out this year and if they prove to be better than my current set up i'll build one next summer. but i have ridden the pro chassis, and it ROCKS!

Jdub1177 · Oct 7, 2010

My concern is resale on the 2010, by next year it could be worth half of what I pay this year... At the same time, I don't want to be a guinea pig either... Hmmmmmmm

Clarke673 · Oct 7, 2010

buy the pro, get all the engine problems out of the way with the warrenty and turbo it next year...

Tec · Oct 7, 2010

Jdub1177 said:
My concern is resale on the 2010, by next year it could be worth half of what I pay this year... At the same time, I don't want to be a guinea pig either... Hmmmmmmm

Have you really looked at the used snowmobile market? Any sled you buy is going to be worth half next year!

Jdub1177 · Oct 7, 2010

Tec said:
Have you really looked at the used snowmobile market? Any sled you buy is going to be worth half next year!

LOL! I just sold my 08 XPs, so yes I took a bath but not 50%! I'm thinking old body, and Turbo'd.....= more more soap!!! And if the Pro turns out to be "good"' it could really hurt the 10. But that power is hard to pass on.....this is a hard decision...

I'm thinking the Pro is the right move, run it hard....seat the pistons and add 10lbs of boost next year!!! I'll probably want a pro next year even if I had the turbo 10... Fiscally it makes the most sense....right?

Ron · Oct 7, 2010

Your logic is sound, you've covered the issues well. You will be money ahead to buy the Pro and turbo it next year but some of the benfit depends on how many years you keep a sled. It's going to be interesting to see how much fun factor the Pro adds even in stock form.

lightening800 · Oct 7, 2010

tough call< i have a pro snowchecked as well but dont think ill take it this year, the 2010 d8 has ran perfectly for all my buds and you can get one for 12-13g for a nicwe one boosted already, heck thats almost the same price for just the sled alone for the pro, that is my logic, ride something with 200-240hp for the same amount as for a new sled with hopefully 150hp, and your not the test dummy like all the 08-09 d8 owners. just my .02

Jdub1177 · Oct 7, 2010

At least I'm not the only one pondering this.... The pro's and con's nearly equal themselves..... I know of more then a few new 10's boosted for $13k or less.... Maybe wait for the snow show????

tranquillicer · Oct 8, 2010

Yup

lightening800 said:
tough call< i have a pro snowchecked as well but dont think ill take it this year, the 2010 d8 has ran perfectly for all my buds and you can get one for 12-13g for a nicwe one boosted already, heck thats almost the same price for just the sled alone for the pro, that is my logic, ride something with 200-240hp for the same amount as for a new sled with hopefully 150hp, and your not the test dummy like all the 08-09 d8 owners. just my .02

This is the guy with the right answer here. Even if you put a fresh set of pistons in the sled you would be way farther ahead money wise to buy 1 year old with boost on it.

Ricks 32 · Oct 8, 2010

I too was in the same situation last spring. After riding the Pro (which is excellent) and a Dragon at 12 lbs, there was no way I could resist not getting the year older sled with a turbo. The Dragon is an excellent chassis and it works well with Boost.

If you get the Pro, do yourself a favor and don't ride with guys with boost

Scott · Oct 8, 2010

As for getting a 12-13k used T-d8 vs a 2011 Pro....
I've ridden both. Chassis for chassis, I'd get the Pro.
Dollar for dollar, that's a hard one to argue against getting the Dragon.

If you can wait 9 months....I'd buy a used T-Pro in the spring of 2011. LOL

Ron · Oct 8, 2010

One thing not mentioned with a used T is the useful life between major overhaul. There's a price to be paid for adding all that power.

F-Bomb · Oct 12, 2010

Excellent useful information here gang!

I like what everyone is saying. I think you have your answer.

This is not an opinion of the question but more to further discussion. I've coached a bunch of guys in a very similar direction. I'm going to add some additional "experience" flavor from a guy who spent a decent amount of time on the Demo PRO and lots of miles on one of the best riding IQ RAW'S on the planet (and about 200 other sleds along the way). If you want your IQ RAW to behave like a PRO you will need to spend some money on the suspension. (you;re still going to have a heavier sled)

We've had nearly 500 different riders test our IQ RAW Performance Partner Sled with HOLZ/FOX suspension and CARLS POWER. Universally if they didn't own a boosted sled they slobbered all over it (until they heard the price). If they came from boost they were much much less enthusiastic.

Guys still get ruined for having any "ride" objectivity about a sled when they come from boosted power. I call it the Yamaha syndrom. RIDES LIKE CRAP BUT YOU CAN'T FEEL ALL THAT WEIGHT WHEN THE SKIS ARE IN THE SKY! It's only heavy when you let out!

RidnHigh · Oct 12, 2010

I too had this option, i bought used turbo...didnt want to be a guinea pig, especially when the last five sleds polaris has released has more or less been a flop in some sort of fashion, i am polaris through and through and will probably never switch brands but even I realize that there are inevital problems....most of the sleds boosted for around 12-13 have a skid as well so yah your up a little weight but capable of up approx 100 hp...besides, Rob you and Mountain Horse probably know best, i too rode a pro for 100 or so miles last year, is the sled that you guys are getting today truly the same sled that you rode??? I would have to argue that it is probably not...but mayb ejust my opinion

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