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XP vs M1000 ?

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here is what needs to happen....

1 2008 m1000 sno pro 162 stock with a proper setup
1 2008 rev xp X 800r 163 stock with proper setup
1 2008 dragon 800 163 stock with proper setup

one rider, one hill, same day, same hour.
all with warmed up engines, but cool/clean clutches and belts
best of 3 runs

my guess is that on the hill the m1000 because it is just pure hp/torque
across the field who knows, they will all probably be pretty close. who knows, maybe the dragon will smoke the xp:eek:.....when you can get it! :D

in the end all are probably great sleds that will get you places you probably shouldnt be. i love my cat and im sure others love theirs cats, doos and poos.
it should be in the worst conditions with hot clutches and hard ridden all day then race em to see which sled is actually the better sled..
 
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They are both sweet sleds!! Thank god to both manufactures for building these things! One with huge HP and torque numbers and one that is super light and nimble! Pick your poison they will both be a blast to ride. I have been a ski-doo guy my whole life but that 1000 is sweet. Thank god they replaced the King Cat with it. What a world of difference
 
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Spent 2 days in Revy last week, 2 M1000's clutched, ypipe, can, air intake, head and 163, we had an 06 rev 151 with nitrous and 827cc (I think) and new Rev xp 154 with clutching,airbox opened up, can.

I tend to have green blood from coming off 2 King Cats, and am M1900, for the last 5 years imo the BRP 800's have never been close, while this year they sure the heck are. I was really impressed with the xp, it hauls arse. Hill climbing it could not hang with the 1000's or the 827 but all around this looks like a great machine. It was alot closer than I thought it would be, good rider on the xp will really look good this year.

Funny there was probably 10 xp's out there as soon as the saw us on the 1000 they came hunting usually not for long but don't forget the mods to our 1000's. If it were stock for stock I really think the 800 and 1000 would be really close. First time I've ever considered a BRP seriously for my next sled.
 
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Spent 2 days in Revy last week, 2 M1000's clutched, ypipe, can, air intake, head and 163, we had an 06 rev 151 with nitrous and 827cc (I think) and new Rev xp 154 with clutching,airbox opened up, can.

I tend to have green blood from coming off 2 King Cats, and am M1900, for the last 5 years imo the BRP 800's have never been close, while this year they sure the heck are. I was really impressed with the xp, it hauls arse. Hill climbing it could not hang with the 1000's or the 827 but all around this looks like a great machine. It was alot closer than I thought it would be, good rider on the xp will really look good this year.

Funny there was probably 10 xp's out there as soon as the saw us on the 1000 they came hunting usually not for long but don't forget the mods to our 1000's. If it were stock for stock I really think the 800 and 1000 would be really close. First time I've ever considered a BRP seriously for my next sled.

say it aint so JB,,:eek::D
 
C
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5 days in revy 08 m1000 162, 08 xp 800 163 , 05 kk 162 and others ,m1000 had boondocker box sled shed stinger ,snowpro intake , xp was stock picked up at dealer on the way (thanks marvin at trackside in Olds Alta for staying 2 hours after closeing time) both 0 miles 400 miles at end of trip both setup not perfect yet, flip a coin who would win climbs in fresh powder , both riders agree that m was harder to carve with than xp but seemed to have more torque and kk was way back just my 2c from someone who was there rideing the sleds and not a computer:D
 
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5 days in revy 08 m1000 162, 08 xp 800 163 , 05 kk 162 and others ,m1000 had boondocker box sled shed stinger ,snowpro intake , xp was stock picked up at dealer on the way (thanks marvin at trackside in Olds Alta for staying 2 hours after closeing time) both 0 miles 400 miles at end of trip both setup not perfect yet, flip a coin who would win climbs in fresh powder , both riders agree that m was harder to carve with than xp but seemed to have more torque and kk was way back just my 2c from someone who was there rideing the sleds and not a computer:D

LOL, no doubt
I have a 2008 snopro 162 M1000 and I think there is a lot to be said for leaving it stock!
I have a Jaws can and clutched the primary, everything else stock with that said...I have beatin up on a few of the piped and slightly modded sleds, I have seen many people mod up sleds and spend their day playing with fuel boxes and clutches and still not get it right.
Lined up a couple weeks ago with a M1000 with a RKT head, reeds, SLP single and Y pipe, he said the thing was running perfect, when we lined up to go up the hill I pulled 2 lengths on him outta the hole and held that half way up, when we got to the top he pulled me and we crested the hill dead even.
So of couse he spent the next hour tinkering with his fuel controller and clutches....of course I sat down with a beer and bull****ted while he played.
He did end up beating me up the hill by one sled length eventually but for one length and all that f**** round! is it realy worth it?
 
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Asked and answered!

i know mine can beat an xp!
nate that is a tough question...



Step away from the pipe son.....
You need to talk to "trackpoucher" he's going to be the new sherriff in town as soon as he lands an m1000.

I may end up being a deputy after my last event when Mini handed me my walking papers with his M1000 but am going to earn my new sherriff badge when my new M1000 gets dialed in. This time no chit talk till it has proven itself. WHICH the XP did NOT!
 
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onepicknick

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Track where did you trade your XP or do you have the so called POS still how much do you want for it I know of several people who would buy it.

You see I am a pilot I have a 182 I picked up this older gentleman who was getting his annual flew him home he asked how I liked my 182 he has the 172 I told him it just wasn't fast enough it goes 150mph or 130kts I would like a 200 mph plane. He told me then your not enjoying flying and all it has to offer.
Same with sledding if all your worried about is highmarking than get out your wallet out I don't care what sled your ridding chances are there will be someone there who has put some cash in there sled and has it dailed in and they will be king of the mountain that day. WHO CARES when I want to be King for the day I ride the 1150 cutler and hope like He!! no one has a turbo out and a littles more ba!!s than me because he'll be king.

Take the sites in have a couple of beers and chill with some good friends NOW THAT'S WHAT I'M TALk'N ABOUT.
 
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Why is it the "800" XP always gets compared to the M "1000" ,and not to the M "800" ,Why not compare apples to apples? This subject always makes me glad I own Skidoo.

Its simple why they are being compared to each other, its called power to weight ratio.

As posted earlier

Box stock weights
M1000 (07 162) wet 619lbs 165hp (weights from wyoming T/A's wet weight thread)
xp 800 163 wet 535lbs 151hp
put a 200lb rider on each sled.

Cat 819/165=4.96 lbs/hp
Doo 735/151=4.86lbs/hp
 

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Run each company's flag ship machine against each other. It is not that easy to make a good running bigbore polaris 900 skidoo 1000 is proof of that.
 
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What answer!

I may end up being a deputy after my last event when Mini handed me my walking papers with his M1000 but am going to earn my new sherriff badge when my new M1000 gets dialed in. This time no chit talk till it has proven itself. WHICH the XP did NOT!

Trackpoucher i see you are located in Idaho, were at in Idaho. I would love to ride against the new m10.
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07 800r 151 w/can no motor work just light weighted
 
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Its simple why they are being compared to each other, its called power to weight ratio.

As posted earlier

Box stock weights
M1000 (07 162) wet 619lbs 165hp (weights from wyoming T/A's wet weight thread)
xp 800 163 wet 535lbs 151hp
put a 200lb rider on each sled.

Cat 819/165=4.96 lbs/hp
Doo 735/151=4.86lbs/hp

Then your talking a pissin match on the side of a mountain, In a sanctioned event like Jackson hole hill climb etc its cc's against cc's. ie apples to apples.
 
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Then your talking a pissin match on the side of a mountain, In a sanctioned event like Jackson hole hill climb etc its cc's against cc's. ie apples to apples.

I dont know if it would be a pissin match. I dont care what sled I owned I would feel the same way.

One sled does have a few more horse but the other is lot lighter.

But in a "sanctioned" event, have the time it is the rider and track prep. I dont think the sled makes much difference. jsut my $.02 flame suit on
 
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