• I've received emails and PM's asking me about "Group Buys" and promotions.

    A Group Buy here on SnoWestOnline.com would be a situation where a normal member (non vendor or mfg) personally collects orders from other members. That member then uses those orders to negotiate a better price with the Vendor/Mfg for HIS/HER "Group" of buyers.

    Here is an example of a viable "Group Buy"


    A promotion that has the words "Group Buy" in the title is still a promotion, and from the rules that were handed down to me by Harris Publications is that non-advertisers cannot run promotions or open sales programs on the forums outside of the swapmeet.

    If a members wants to become a group buy manager, maintain a thread and collect the funds and negotiate a group buy... as a member, you are welcome to do that as long as you are not attached to the business of the vendor or Mfg.

    If you are a vendor/MFG and you want to offer an EXCLUSIVE "SnoWestOnline ONLY" promotion that is exclusive to snowest readers, please contact me and you'll be able to put it up in the Polaris forums.

    Also, before any vendors/mfgs get all "riled up" over this know that the moderators are strictly volunteers and do not receive a dime from any advertising $$ spent on this site.

    As ALWAYS, since DAY ONE of me becoming a moderator, I have pioneered, supported and encouraged vendors and mfgs in getting the word out to our readers with "New Product Announcements.

    Have a great season.

    From this point on, all vendors/mfg's promoting Pre-Season tiered sales programs, in the Polaris Forums, that are not paid advertisers will be appropriately moved to the swapmeet section of the forums.


Polaris Footwell toe loop Fix


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Jun 23, 2011
NW Montana
Many injuries have occurred to us Poo riders getting our feet stuck in the footwell and someone might have posted this fix.
After considering many options I came up with a simple fix, layed my sled on its side and took a small sledgehammer with an 18” piece of 2x4 and beat on the toe loop from the bottom side starting at the outside edge where it curves and progressed along the straight over to where it attaches to the tunnel. Changed the clearance from the toe loop to the running board (plenty) to allow the boot to roll over and not get caught. I’ve come close to getting hurt from my boot getting caught between the toe loop and the running board and have read about many who have been injured. Problem solved, no cutting, welding or structural change to the sled. It’s a great feeling not having to worry about having my feet forward and under the toe loop!


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Lifetime Membership
Oct 24, 2009
Cochrane Ab
I just got back riding last week from a broken ankle last December, due to my boot caught in the Polaris toe loop. I considered bending mine up as well, but they did not look to be structural, so I cut them off. Don't miss them, problem solved...


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Premium Member
Nov 1, 2008
Southwestern Idaho
That toe loop is the most ridiculous design i have ever seen!!! Can't believe they are still this low. Needs to be raised about 1.5" higher and all would be good. It is just a matter of time until it "bites" you.


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Nov 8, 2008
It is downright shameful that this is still a issue. Needs to be redesigned for sure. BTW I bent mine up using 2x4 & large hammer. Much better clearance now for my size 13 boot.


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Dec 3, 2008
Bring back "Ankle Savers"!!!! I have a set and like them would like another set along with many others.
<div>I tried to get him to make more this year and he said they weren't profitable for him. I would have bought at least six pair from him because all my friends want them as well</div></div>


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Premium Member
Nov 26, 2007
any pics with it cut off? ordered a 2020 and coming from doo, ive never liked that loop and will more than likely just cut it off


Mar 18, 2018
I will try to add a pic when I can.
After reading this - I went out and banged mine up with a 2x4 and small sledge. Moved up 3/4" easily. Can't even tell if you were to look at it (looks stock) and my boots are able t o twist out now. 5 minutes total. Everyone should do this


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Dec 25, 2007
Wembley, AB
Only pic I have. 3 of us that have axys in our group have all cut them off with no issue. One buddy got his foot stuck couple months ago and tore some tendons. We all cut them off after that. Will be the first thing I do if I get another Polaris

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Feb 1, 2010
How long till someone sues Polaris over this?
More than likely they have already, and certainly threatened. The two US OEMs get poked at almost every month. All those ads on TV for personal injury lawyers are not just for show. Any settlements would be non disclosured, and suits themselves would have to be discovered by state. It's a known issue, like the self-adjusting glued lower a-arm. That one is waiting to kill someone.


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Jan 13, 2008
Reno, NV
I took a small auto floor jack and wedged it between the rail and foot loop. Then placed a cut to fit 2x4 under the rail to the floor as I jacked the foot loop up a bit while standing on the sled. Worked great and doesnt seem to be a problem with my klim boots anymore.
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