M7 tracks
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Peoples opinions are going to vary bigtime on this but I think the challenger is the better all around track. The attack 20 is much better in the powder but worse in the hard pack unless you flip it around. The challenger is just ok in powder but good in hardpack. If the new powerclaw turns out to be as good as the current test results I would replace the track on the m7 with one and you will have the best powder and hard pack track.
The 05 M’s had the A20 only. I have a 05 M7 141 with the A20 on it and I wish I could change it. I love it in the powder but on the trail and in the spring it is an accident waiting to happen. I have the camo on my M8 & M1000. I like it a whole lot better. But like said above I would get the power claw if it was me. They are both 2.25 inch lugs
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MJay
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The 06s had both tracks available. I like my challenger. It isnt the best at anything but its good at everything. The places I get stuck arent because of the track, its the lack of big power.
My track has stood up to a lot of abuse and is still like new. No rips, tears, missing lugs, or broken lugs. I regularly ride on gravel and asphalt and straight through thick alders. The tips are folded over but the track has held up perfectly after 3500+ hard miles.
My track has stood up to a lot of abuse and is still like new. No rips, tears, missing lugs, or broken lugs. I regularly ride on gravel and asphalt and straight through thick alders. The tips are folded over but the track has held up perfectly after 3500+ hard miles.
Don’t get me wrong I love the A20 off trail. I almost bought a 06 M7 and I had a hard time deciding which track to get. But another down fall of the A20 is it will overheat your sled if you ride on the trail for to long in marginal snow conditions. It doesn’t flip enough snow up.
Any long track sled will have a tough time staying cool in marginal snow conditions, with or without scratchers. The only real down side on the A20 is no hooking up well on hard pack, but if you get a powdery trail, or a soft trail with a several inches of fluff on it the A20 is fine.
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M7ZR6
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UM I think you ment the challenger won't flip up enough snow. I have to ride in the back of our group because the guys don't like to ride in the 30 foot rooster tail behind my sled. My buddies sled without a snow flap and the challenger dosn't throw as much as my A20 with a flap. I have always run mine in hill climb so maybe in powder position it might not.
I have the A20 and am switching to the challenger. Yeah the A20 is good in powder (it's in powder postion) but on anything sort of packed the paddles on mine lay over and it just spins. That is kind of fun for goofing around but gets old when your trying to keep up on the trails.
I have had the 162" A20 for several years. Put ice screws in it for the hard pack and that helps. I agree with Skinner on the cooling. The other issue I had is going up serious hills (packed or powder) seemed to be a real struggle. Putting on Challenger for next year. Will see if it was the track or the rider.
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graveler
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Attack 20's own. Challenger paddles are weak and fold alot easier.
Just depends where you rideout here, I love my attack 20, will try a finger track. If I dont like it, im going right back to the attack 20
you will be back after the first ride!!! A20 in hillclimb from the box, mine doesnt even throw snow anymore, its perfect
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mezz250x
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Dont your guys sleds trench bad with the A20 in HC mode? I had a 162 on a ZR800 and used it both ways, in the hc way just trenched terrible in the pow but was nice when it warmed up. Also had the track for about 500 miles and it was almost junk, lugs tore all over the place and breaking apart at the base. Although i did ride some ditches around home with it i was still not impressed with the track, unless i was riding in bottomless pow in the pow position it was a turd.
I love the A20 track. Everyone's exactly right about it in hard pack, it spins like no other, but momentum is your best friend in those situatioins, as long as you have it, you won't have trouble. If you slowly come up to the bottom of a hill and then gas it, yeah you'll have problems, but if you come at it with some momentum, no problems. My philosophy is that in hard pack, even with the A20 you can go anywhere you need to or probably should go (with some smarts), it's the powder days when you are having trouble going all the places you want to, and the A20 in powder position is the answer. I tried mine once in HC position when it was hard pack and yeah, 30' roost at least even with a snow flap, but who wants to flip the track a couple times a season. I leave mine in powder position and love it. I bought my sled new and have probably 3000 or 4000 miles on it. Track is getting pretty worn, but I'm not unhappy at all with it. If any of you have a 141" A20 in good shape you want to get rid of, let me know, I'm in the market. I hope I don't have to "settle" for a different track and plan on keeping the sled for a while still. Just my $.02.
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kingofmountains
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i ran a 141 a/20 on my m-6 in the powder position for 1/2 a season, flipped it for the second season (yes, you have to take the track off to flip it to hillclimb position, and its not that hard to do if you have any mech. skills) i have yet to flip it back into pp. my 6 is still a 6, i have reclutched and installed a 162 a/20 and have it in the hc position with the tips (only a 1/4 +/-) shaved off, mainly to get some braking back and hopefully stop the lugs from taring when riding hardpack. i have rode many other sleds, new and not so new, and in my opinion i will never run my machine without an attack on it, even with it not holding up as long as a camo.
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I've got a Challenger-20, custom made. Lemme explain, the challenger's lugs are fairly soft for the first 1/4" or so, and from sitting in the offseason, the tips of the lugs got angled back like a A-20 in the powder position. I like my challenger, 2500kms or so and no torn or missing lugs and I've hit many trees, stumps and rocks to boot.
