For whatever it is worth a dealer here confirmed the 880 rumor as being factual. We will know in a few days. I rode the T3 174 on Saturday for the first time. It is a nice sled that does everything very well. It wasn't broken in yet so the engine was not pulling as hard as it will when the computer lets it work at full tilt. It still had great power. Limiter straps were too loose or something. It needed more ski pressure. The rear track shock is not very good and the front shocks are too soft. I bottomed it out three times. The rear track shock needs more rebound damping. I also don't like the stock skis very much. That may have been partially due to the loose limiter straps. We could have had better snow conditions but we did get into one area that was protected from the sun and we found some pretty good snow there.