ATTAC Shocks…..👎!!!!

[Chewy22]

I’m about done with them. Great concept, piss poor execution by Cat! Mine keep getting turned to hard/lockout! The function button is horrible. Sitting at an idol I can’t get it to function right. Riding around and hitting it seems to work better. Tired of fighting it and it sucks when they get set to hard/lockout. !!!!

 

[koolaid]

I agree. I should have saved myself the $100 and headache and just ordered the QS3. I would gladly take the 60 seconds to get off my sled and change the settings than deal with the electronic nightmare that still doesn't work.

 

[Vern]

I leave mine in the green lock/unlock position for quick access to lock when I want it. So far I’ve only accidentally locked it out once. As far as using it for the rest of the adjustments I’ve found that you have to hold the button down for a bit the first time to activate the suspension mode then it works fine after that hitting the center to change from the green to white or from normal to the lockout settings. Then if you haven’t messed with it for a bit you have to do the hold it down for a bit thing again the first time to “wake up” the menu again. So far the quick access to lockout has came in handy a time or two when I’ve started up a hill into the trees and it suddenly got steep where I didn’t expect it, being able to lockout on the move was handy. I never really bothered with the lockout on my ascender alpha, but it had a habit of locking itself out in heavy wet snow then I’d have to stop and get off to unlock it. I was almost to the point of pulling the knob off in the late season to get it to stop locking itself out.

 

[Chewy22]

I leave mine in the green lock/unlock position for quick access to lock when I want it. So far I’ve only accidentally locked it out once. As far as using it for the rest of the adjustments I’ve found that you have to hold the button down for a bit the first time to activate the suspension mode then it works fine after that hitting the center to change from the green to white or from normal to the lockout settings. Then if you haven’t messed with it for a bit you have to do the hold it down for a bit thing again the first time to “wake up” the menu again. So far the quick access to lockout has came in handy a time or two when I’ve started up a hill into the trees and it suddenly got steep where I didn’t expect it, being able to lockout on the move was handy. I never really bothered with the lockout on my ascender alpha, but it had a habit of locking itself out in heavy wet snow then I’d have to stop and get off to unlock it. I was almost to the point of pulling the knob off in the late season to get it to stop locking itself out.

That is what I was hoping to do but somehow all three shocks kept getting set to hard. It happened twice today. Locked the setting to medium in white mode and somehow they got set to hard again. The last hour of the day, I left it in green mode and set at the soft/medium/hard menu. See how it goes tomorrow.

 

[arcticridr]

Hey Chewy any bogging today since the TSS unplug??

 

[Vern]

That is what I was hoping to do but somehow all three shocks kept getting set to hard. It happened twice today. Locked the setting to medium in white mode and somehow they got set to hard again. The last hour of the day, I left it in green mode and set at the soft/medium/hard menu. See how it goes tomorrow.

Interesting

 

[Chewy22]

Hey Chewy any bogging today since the TSS unplug??

None!

 

[arcticridr]

Sweetness

 

[Chewy22]

I kept the ATTAC settings in green mode in the soft/medium/hard option and had no issues with it changing yesterday. I really do not know what was happening the first couple days. I want to keep it in the medium setting and leave it on the unlock/lock option so I can quickly lock in the rear shock if needed. But that is where I seemed to have issues. Will keep playing with it, but wow do I wish the button was more user friendly. Not ready to throw in the towel yet, but getting close.

All that said, I would not recommend the ATTAC setup to anyone. I will never buy them again. There is little to no resale value with them and that is the only reason I'm continuing to fight/deal with it.

 

[Vern]

When yours changed randomly, did it show on the screen that they had changed? On my last ride when I was fighting the front end tossing me all over I was wondering if maybe the shocks had switched to a firmer setting, but the screen still said they were where I left them so most likely not.

 

[MTN_VIPER]

That's what I do, is leave ATTAC in green mode with the soft/medium/firm/driver's options on. I set driver's 2 so the rear shock is firm/skis medium, which effectively gives me a "partial lock out mode" that is MUCH easier than trying get in/out of unlock/lock mode.

I actually don't care for lock out mode that much. It's fine for an untracked hill climb, but I found that if I cross an older track or hit a patch or harder snow during a climb, it can foul me up pretty good due to there being very little to no rear skid movement. With the rear shock in firm, under the same conditions there is a little more travel to absorb the hit when crossing over varying snow conditions.

One thing I do like about the ATTAC is the ability to change the suspension on the fly when changing sled speeds. When going slow I'll have it on soft and if I speed up, I will toggle it to medium or firm depending on how fast I'm going. Then when I slow back down again, I'll toggle it to a softer setting.

 

[Chewy22]

When yours changed randomly, did it show on the screen that they had changed? On my last ride when I was fighting the front end tossing me all over I was wondering if maybe the shocks had switched to a firmer setting, but the screen still said they were where I left them so most likely not.

Nope. After the last ride a couple weeks ago, it was set to medium and on the green unlock/lock option. Rode all day Friday with the gauge showing green unlock, assuming the shocks were still set on medium. My dumbass rode all day Friday with those stupid things set to hard and I was flat beat at the end of the day....LOL!!!! Saturday morning, I finally realized the shocks were set on hard. After fighting the switch, I finally got the shocks set to medium and then I locked the ATTAC out to the white mode. For a good part of the day, the screen showed medium in white, lower corner and at startup. Later that afternoon I felt the shocks where stiff again, looked at the screen and there was no ATTAC display in the lower corner, nothing no green or white. Turned the sled off and started it back up, no ATTAC display at all, not the typical start up display or the display in the lower corner and the shocks were all locked in hard again. I fought the switch again and finally got it in medium and left it on green, so I could visibly see medium in green in the lower corner and on startup. Stayed there for the last hour of the day on Saturday and all day yesterday. Just for an FYI, my driver 1 and 2 are both set at medium for all three shocks. I have no idea how they were switched to hard, especially when I had the ATTAC system locked out in white mode. My system also seems to really get stuck in the unlock/lock green mode. I have a hell of a time getting it out of that option. I'm sure it's a lot of user error but something still seems off with the whole setup. Also, like I mentioned above the button seems to work better when the sled is moving. If I'm sitting at an idol I can't get it to work right, weird!!!!

 

[Chewy22]

That's what I do, is leave ATTAC in green mode with the soft/medium/firm/driver's options on. I set driver's 2 so the rear shock is firm/skis medium, which effectively gives me a "partial lock out mode" that is MUCH easier than trying get in/out of unlock/lock mode.

I actually don't care for lock out mode that much. It's fine for an untracked hill climb, but I found that if I cross an older track or hit a patch or harder snow during a climb, it can foul me up pretty good due to there being very little to no rear skid movement. With the rear shock in firm, under the same conditions there is a little more travel to absorb the hit when crossing over varying snow conditions.

One thing I do like about the ATTAC is the ability to change the suspension on the fly when changing sled speeds. When going slow I'll have it on soft and if I speed up, I will toggle it to medium or firm depending on how fast I'm going. Then when I slow back down again, I'll toggle it to a softer setting.

This is what I'm going to do. Great suggestion on the driver options. I want to visually see soft/medium/firm/driver's option.

 

[Vern]

Nope. After the last ride a couple weeks ago, it was set to medium and on the green unlock/lock option. Rode all day Friday with the gauge showing green unlock, assuming the shocks were still set on medium. My dumbass rode all day Friday with those stupid things set to hard and I was flat beat at the end of the day....LOL!!!! Saturday morning, I finally realized the shocks were set on hard. After fighting the switch, I finally got the shocks set to medium and then I locked the ATTAC out to the white mode. For a good part of the day, the screen showed medium in white, lower corner and at startup. Later that afternoon I felt the shocks where stiff again, looked at the screen and there was no ATTAC display in the lower corner, nothing no green or white. Turned the sled off and started it back up, no ATTAC display at all, not the typical start up display or the display in the lower corner and the shocks were all locked in hard again. I fought the switch again and finally got it in medium and left it on green, so I could visibly see medium in green in the lower corner and on startup. Stayed there for the last hour of the day on Saturday and all day yesterday. Just for an FYI, my driver 1 and 2 are both set at medium for all three shocks. I have no idea how they were switched to hard, especially when I had the ATTAC system locked out in white mode. My system also seems to really get stuck in the unlock/lock green mode. I have a hell of a time getting it out of that option. I'm sure it's a lot of user error but something still seems off with the whole setup. Also, like I mentioned above the button seems to work better when the sled is moving. If I'm sitting at an idol I can't get it to work right, weird!!!!

Interesting, maybe my shocks did switch to firm then. That’s what it felt like when I was struggling, but I never lost the setting on the display that I noticed and when I double checked I was still in the setting I had selected I didn’t think much of it. I Had set it to driver 1 which I had the skis set to soft and rear to medium which I liked on the first ride, then left it on the lock unlock green screen all day. Next ride is when I was on the struggle bus and started messing with pressures because the front felt stiff. I might have to mess around with it more.

 

[doudea]

I’m about done with them. Great concept, piss poor execution by Cat! Mine keep getting turned to hard/lockout! The function button is horrible. Sitting at an idol I can’t get it to function right. Riding around and hitting it seems to work better. Tired of fighting it and it sucks when they get set to hard/lockout. !!!!

I just picked up a 858 Mountain Cat with the QS3s. Which I really wanted the iQS as I love them on my Polaris Boost sleds. I don’t normally do the parts trade, but would trade the QS3s for the iQS if someone is interested? I’m located in Western Colorado.

 

[koolaid]

I just picked up a 858 Mountain Cat with the QS3s. Which I really wanted the iQS as I love them on my Polaris Boost sleds. I don’t normally do the parts trade, but would trade the QS3s for the iQS if someone is interested? I’m located in Western Colorado.

I might just do that with you. I am in Nevada but will be going through Colorado in March or April for a sledding trip.

 

[Vern]

Nope. After the last ride a couple weeks ago, it was set to medium and on the green unlock/lock option. Rode all day Friday with the gauge showing green unlock, assuming the shocks were still set on medium. My dumbass rode all day Friday with those stupid things set to hard and I was flat beat at the end of the day....LOL!!!! Saturday morning, I finally realized the shocks were set on hard. After fighting the switch, I finally got the shocks set to medium and then I locked the ATTAC out to the white mode. For a good part of the day, the screen showed medium in white, lower corner and at startup. Later that afternoon I felt the shocks where stiff again, looked at the screen and there was no ATTAC display in the lower corner, nothing no green or white. Turned the sled off and started it back up, no ATTAC display at all, not the typical start up display or the display in the lower corner and the shocks were all locked in hard again. I fought the switch again and finally got it in medium and left it on green, so I could visibly see medium in green in the lower corner and on startup. Stayed there for the last hour of the day on Saturday and all day yesterday. Just for an FYI, my driver 1 and 2 are both set at medium for all three shocks. I have no idea how they were switched to hard, especially when I had the ATTAC system locked out in white mode. My system also seems to really get stuck in the unlock/lock green mode. I have a hell of a time getting it out of that option. I'm sure it's a lot of user error but something still seems off with the whole setup. Also, like I mentioned above the button seems to work better when the sled is moving. If I'm sitting at an idol I can't get it to work right, weird!!!!

Didn’t ride today, but had a similar issue in the trailer. Everything seemed to work fine on my last ride last weekend. Went out to top the fuel and such up today and I don’t know why, but decided to push down on the rear bumper and it was rock solid. Hopped on the sled and rocked it side to side and sure enough the ski shocks were stiff as well. Fired it up and the display was still in the green lock/unlock mode and said the rear shock was unlocked. I switched it to lock then back to unlock, but no change, still stiff. Held the button down to try and change to the other mode selection screen and it just made the words disappear from the screen like you described. Held it down again and it brought the lock unlock screen back up but still wouldn’t unlock the rear shock. Kept messing with it and it would just go from showing the green lock screen to removing the words from the screen and back again. Then randomly after messing with it for a bit the soft/medium/firm screen finally popped back up and then the shocks softened up and started responding to the button again. . This is the first confirmed issue I’ve had with the shocks. Guess I’ll just leave it on this mode selection screen for now and see what happens.

 

[Chewy22]

Yep I have left it in green and on the soft/medium/firm setting. It has stayed on green medium for four straight days. No issues with it changing randomly.

 

[MTN_VIPER]

Just a follow up, the driver's 1 (rear shock medium/ skis soft) and driver's 2 (rear shock firm/ skis medium) is working out well for me in the mountains. I normally use driver's 1 for general mountain riding and driver's 2 for climbing. Driver's 2 helps keep the front end down somewhat more during a climb, without having to go down the rabbit hole of trying to get in/out of lock out mode.
Like Chewy22 above I just leave suspension in green mode and can quickly toggle between soft/medium/firm (for trails), and driver's 1/driver's 2 (mountains). I find that when using the ATTAC in this manner, I like it a lot more and use it constantly throughout the day when conditions change.

 

[Vern]

Is there actually a difference between firm and medium on the rear shock on these? Just pushing down on my rear bumper I think they feel the same, and on my ‘20 alpha with the qs3s there was still only 3 positions on the rear shock. Soft, medium and lock.