Alpha One 154 weight

[High Country]

Had my Alpha One Mountain Cat 154 on the scale today (local feed store) ready to ride full of all fluids
(fuel, oil, coolant, brake fluid, shock oil)

tunnel bag, spare belt, goggle pouch, tool pouch, air pump,

mods(so far)

-TKI billet brake lever
-SSM billet pull handle
-Cobra pull cord
-Diamond S Ti Q can
-Muffpot


530 lbs wet ready to ride

 

[High Country]

Invoice.

 

[CO 2.0]

If you can sometime, Id like to see you weigh yourself on that same scale to see how accurate it is. My 18 was 545lbs. That would be a big plus if the alpha is 15lbs lighter. Thanks for posting this.

My sled weights from last years thread...
https://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434366&highlight=weighed

 

[F7arcticcat]

If you can sometime, Id like to see you weigh yourself on that same scale to see how accurate it is. My 18 was 545lbs. That would be a big plus if the alpha is 15lbs lighter. Thanks for posting this.

My sled weights from last years thread...
https://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434366&highlight=weighed

His has a can so about the same?

 

[High Country]

If you can sometime, Id like to see you weigh yourself on that same scale to see how accurate it is. My 18 was 545lbs. That would be a big plus if the alpha is 15lbs lighter. Thanks for posting this.

My sled weights from last years thread...
https://www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=434366&highlight=weighed

all good ...I thought the same thing ...going to do a comparison weigh in with a different scale and hang it off my tractor loader....pics to follow

Cats website indicates 446 lbs dry... if so ...

fuel 11.7 gallon @ 6.3 lbs per gallon = 73.71 lbs +/-
coolant 5 quarts @ 8.8 lbs per gallon = 11 lbs +/-
oil 3.25 quarts @ 8 lbs per gallon = 6.5 lbs +/-
brake fluid + shock oil 2 lbs +/-
= 93.21 lbs +/- wet weight

446 lbs dry + 93.21 lbs fluids = 539.21 lbs wet total

- 17.6 lbs for a Diamond S Ti Q exhaust can =521.61 lbs

+ billet brake lever, billet pull handle, goggle pouch, tool pouch, tunnel bag, spare belt, and a muffpot would make up 9 lbs or 10 lbs +/-

I think we are going to be close......more to follow shortly ...if anyone thinks I missed anything chime in

 

[CO 2.0]

His has a can so about the same?

Oh ya, forgot I weighed that last year before I put the Ti can on

 

[turboless terry]

The picture of the full gas tank cracks me up. Are people that bad, anymore, that they can't take someone's word for it? Completely ridiculous. The only ones that don't really matter are the ones that weigh them partially full. Full or empty. If you don't hear what you want then weigh them yourself.

 

[boondocker97]

Wasn't Cat claiming an 11lb weight loss with the Alpha track and skid also?

 

[High Country]

The picture of the full gas tank cracks me up. Are people that bad, anymore, that they can't take someone's word for it? Completely ridiculous. The only ones that don't really matter are the ones that weigh them partially full. Full or empty. If you don't hear what you want then weigh them yourself.

I hear ya! ...absolutely & completely ridiculous...apparently this is what it has become.....I didn't want some ass clown keyboard jockey freaking out saying I was dishonest....got all bases covered

 

[High Country]

Wasn't Cat claiming an 11lb weight loss with the Alpha track and skid also?

I thought so too....then I heard from a Cat guy at hay days it was 6 lbs ...so IDK

 

[summ8rmk]

The 154 needs to add the weight of 22track clips.
The left hifax or the track is gonna wearout like a polaris.
No idea why cat only clipped the right paddles???? They are all load bearing under the rail...

People have told me that u can smell the rubber when trail riding...

[emoji12]

 

[madmax]

The 154 needs to add the weight of 22track clips.
The left hifax or the track is gonna wearout like a polaris.
No idea why cat only clipped the right paddles???? They are all load bearing under the rail...

People have told me that u can smell the rubber when trail riding...

[emoji12]

I think you’ve been talking to polaris riders too much. Clips clearly go all the way across the window. If your trail riding an alpha you’ve clearly bought the wrong sled.

 

[summ8rmk]

I think you’ve been talking to polaris riders too much. Clips clearly go all the way across the window

Yup, every other paddle!
only the right side.
The left paddles support just as much weight as the right!
Ur pics show the left paddle clipped and not the right?
Either way, only one side is clipped.
I honestly fear similar results to Polaris track issues are coming our way...

[emoji12]

 

[madmax]

IDK, I think things get blown outta proportion on here when just a few have a problem. I’ve had 5 2015 pros and 4 axys sleds. Never had a track wear issue on any of them. Even on the sleds with over 2000 miles on them. If I lived in the mid west it might be a different story.

 

[sno*jet]

I'm trying to picture how it matters which paddle its on long as its in the center and rides on both hyfax. you sayin the paddles with clips might dig in a little harder and wear those paddles out faster Summ8? IDK.. Polaris put clips where there were no paddles and left the paddles unclipped I thought, I can see that issue.
is the 165 fully clipped?

 

[summ8rmk]

This should probably be moved to another thread. Didn't mean to hijack, just want to add some clip weight... lol


Maybe im wrong?


[emoji12]

 

[sno*jet]

The paddles only go to the center of the rail (one hifax) left?



[emoji12]

there it is, I see your point now. I was thinking they overlapped further. I bet that finger on the inside edge (dead center) will get most of the pressure. that should transfer pretty evenly. one hyfax might wear a little quicker than the other, I could see that. maybe rotate your hyfax once a year
or maybe they put em on the left side cuz that's the side the average guy pulls longer sidehills on, constantly sees more pressure, and more weight on that side with an aftermarket can. food for thought.

 

[Kingkittycat]

there it is, I see your point now. I was thinking they overlapped further. I bet that finger on the inside edge (dead center) will get most of the pressure. that should transfer pretty evenly. one hyfax might wear a little quicker than the other, I could see that. maybe rotate your hyfax once a year
or maybe they put em on the left side cuz that's the side the average guy pulls longer sidehills on, constantly sees more pressure, and more weight on that side with an aftermarket can. food for thought.

Ok, somebody is confused here and maybe its me, but here's how I see it. Ever other window is clipped. The raised portion in center of clip does not support any weight. It's there as a guide, between the two rails, to keep the track from coming off.
There's a rail on each side of the "raised" center part of the "clip"! Where do you guys get that only the left side is clipped? That clip supports both rails, they run that close together!
There's one "mono" rail with two hifax underneath. Both ride on those clips. One on each side of the raised center. Please explain to me how only the left side is going to wear out?
Either I'm confused on what your trying to say or some of you guys haven't seen one in real life.

 

[Kingkittycat]

Had my Alpha One Mountain Cat 154 on the scale today (local feed store) ready to ride full of all fluids
(fuel, oil, coolant, brake fluid, shock oil)

tunnel bag, spare belt, goggle pouch, tool pouch, air pump,

mods(so far)

-TKI billet brake lever
-SSM billet pull handle
-Cobra pull cord
-Diamond S Ti Q can
-Muffpot


530 lbs wet ready to ride


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Be careful trusting feed mill scales. Ones I've used weight in increments of 10lbs and one other one I use is 20lbs. You get a reading of 533lbs, then you'll know its pound for pound. Cats big promotion for this sled is the "real riding weight".... What it actually weighs while riding with snow clinging to things. That's an area where its supposed to make a difference.

 

[SNWMBL]

Anchorage Yamaha Polaris in Alaska weighed a 154 Alpha today. Full of fuel, oil and I believe factory tool kit, just as you would get it from the dealer. They physically checked and made sure all sleds were full of fuel and oil and filled them if needed. They posted a video on Facebook, weighed a bunch of sleds. I was there and saw it hanging. The scale is a 5k digital scale accurate to within 1 lb.

Edited. I removed the weights from the post. The video will be posted on their FB page in the morning on 11-2.