We are leaving thursday as well. See you there...
860 or rear skid 09xp163
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We are leaving thursday as well. See you there...
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Ah i see. We put 5 of them in this year and everyone loves them so far.
Might be out there this weekend too, i'll keep an eye out for you guys.
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Not that it really matters if it works, but does that racers edge stuff add much weight I know at least the older m10s where pretty heavy. Does it use the big tunnel stiffener drop brackets like the m10?
With the Titanium Spring the weight is equal to stock. With the steel spring you add 3 lbs...No there are no tunnell stiffeners involved.
My Racers Edge M-10 also weighs 3 lbs more than the stock skid, complete with the stiffeners.
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Tunnel Stiffeners.
Yes, there are tunnel stiffeners. It was tried without the stiffeners but the stock drop down brackets were too weak. The weight increase using the steel spring and including the tunnel stiffeners is 2-3 pounds. Cost is $2000.00 CDN and $2300 CDN installed. Using the titanium spring in the suspension and tunnel stiffeners the weight is equal to stock. The titanium spring is a $400.00 option.
Yes, there are tunnel stiffeners. It was tried without the stiffeners but the stock drop down brackets were too weak. The weight increase using the steel spring and including the tunnel stiffeners is 2-3 pounds. Cost is $2000.00 CDN and $2300 CDN installed. Using the titanium spring in the suspension and tunnel stiffeners the weight is equal to stock. The titanium spring is a $400.00 option.
I stand corrected. I remembered after I read your post about the initial weakness...
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Clutching and suspension upgrade first. The biggest impact I have made on my XP-X 163 is Tom's Evolution Air suspension it has allowed my to climb faster, further, and turn much easier in deep powder conditions, I feel it has made the X what it should have been from the factory, a real mountain sled.
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ummm...
ITS a well known fact that the shocks werent charged to 300 PSI in 2008 and the rears sagged (HUGE lose of performance)...NOW if a guy has all 4 shocks re-oiled/gas correctly ($150 or stage 1 valving for $250) and the next stiffer rear springs ($80)... put a 2.5 track ($600) you would get a BIG surprise from stock componants (ask Ralph)...not counting a new motor...
stage 1 shocks/new rear springs $330
2.5 track $600
SHR860R $1995
clutch kit $200 = $3125
so $3125 VS new skid/2.5 track/front shocks @ roughly $3400....I hate doing math..
FYI- I have a new Hill Climb Summit...all four shocks are getting rebuilt to factory spec...just because I would rather KNOW my shocks are right vs assume...BJ
disclaimer- I'm NOT saying these new skids arent great or worth the money...JUST the factory stuff only needs a little attention to work ALOT better...
ummm...
ITS a well known fact that the shocks werent charged to 300 PSI in 2008 and the rears sagged (HUGE lose of performance)...NOW if a guy has all 4 shocks re-oiled/gas correctly ($150 or stage 1 valving for $250) and the next stiffer rear springs ($80)... put a 2.5 track ($600) you would get a BIG surprise from stock componants (ask Ralph)...not counting a new motor...
stage 1 shocks/new rear springs $330
2.5 track $600
SHR860R $1995
clutch kit $200 = $3125
so $3125 VS new skid/2.5 track/front shocks @ roughly $3400....I hate doing math..
FYI- I have a new Hill Climb Summit...all four shocks are getting rebuilt to factory spec...just because I would rather KNOW my shocks are right vs assume...BJ
disclaimer- I'm NOT saying these new skids arent great or worth the money...JUST the factory stuff only needs a little attention to work ALOT better...
Not sure but I think Big John also agree's with suspension upgrades?...
My BB hits the Revy snow tomorrow 8am.
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Well after today I say MOTOR, MOTOR, MOTOR! After finally getting my jetting correct(exactly what BJ's specs were intially!!!) on my SHR860, I have become a firm believer in BB's. This thing flat out KILLED it at the Snowies today! My Tom's Evol Air did it's part, but the MOTOR was impressive. I got to show some boys on big ol' M1000's the way home! Do yourself a favor-if you get an SHR860- LISTEN TO BIG JOHN and no one else!
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What differences are there in the performance of the Racers Edge and Timbersled suspensions? I am leaning toward a Timbersled skid most of you guys are running the racers edge. Is it that much better? Have you compared them side by side?
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Haven't seen the Timbersled in action but it does look good.
Baker (Racer's Edge) is notorious for his work on chassis, always been his gig.
I personlly have tried the float route and am not a big fan, even after a revalve. Ti spring and properly dialed in shock will out perform a float any day, and the there is little weight difference compared to the float.
my .02
Baker (Racer's Edge) is notorious for his work on chassis, always been his gig.
I personlly have tried the float route and am not a big fan, even after a revalve. Ti spring and properly dialed in shock will out perform a float any day, and the there is little weight difference compared to the float.
my .02
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Im trying Big Johns idea , revalve the shox , install the hillclimb rear shok and save for his bbk
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Im trying Big Johns idea , revalve the shox , install the hillclimb rear shok and save for his bbk
You sir, are a wise man. SHR860=big
I have about 4 rides on my Hill Climb Edition. I am pretty happy so far with the adjustments available.
One day I would love to get my bone stocker next to the same sled (or any XP w/154) with an aftermarket rear skid and swap a couple of times and see what the difference is first hand.
My last sled I spent my money chasing horse power and I had plenty. With the new HCE I just want to make it work as well as I can in the powder before I throw money at it (and wait for the warranty to run out).
One day I would love to get my bone stocker next to the same sled (or any XP w/154) with an aftermarket rear skid and swap a couple of times and see what the difference is first hand.
My last sled I spent my money chasing horse power and I had plenty. With the new HCE I just want to make it work as well as I can in the powder before I throw money at it (and wait for the warranty to run out).
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With the old wedge polaris chassis we lightgtened the front skid shock all the way to let the skid climb up on the snow. With th xp if you do that you can't steer the thing, along Big Johns line of fine tuning the stock suspension What do we do with limiterstrap/frontskid adjustments for climbing in the deep snow, yet still make it steerable.
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