2014 New Changes for Yamaha?

Tarzannr1 said:

From Ty4stroke:The wife went to the local dealer to get some cloths to put under the tree for me and they were all but sold out and the dealer said good luck getting any of the old stuff yamaha is changing everything for 2014. new logo new sled the whole nine yards has anyone else heard this rumor? personaly I hate thease threads that go on for ever but cant help but ask when it comes from the dealer.

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Local dealer was told to fire sale their Yami inventory and doubled factory rebates, new stuff coming!
They had a new mountain sled ready to release over 2 years ago...im guessing the economy put the brakes on that move. It should be refined and lighter by now if they stuck with the development of that chassis.

Polaris will never be gettin the arctic cat motor. The motor is actually designed by cat and contracted to Suzuki, kinda like Polaris did with the driveshafts, only better. And I don't see cat using the Yamaha motor, cat is the leader on four stroke atv, and why would they have come out with a factory turbo that will handle 275 on pump fuel an has been dynoed by speederx at over 600 horse on stock internals. Maybe they are going to collaborate on something like a chassis, but I don't believe either will be using each others parts


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Cat is not the leader of four stroke anything, especially not atv's
Not even close.

carlc said:

Polaris will never be gettin the arctic cat motor. The motor is actually designed by cat and contracted to Suzuki, kinda like Polaris did with the driveshafts, only better. And I don't see cat using the Yamaha motor, cat is the leader on four stroke atv, and why would they have come out with a factory turbo that will handle 275 on pump fuel an has been dynoed by speederx at over 600 horse on stock internals. Maybe they are going to collaborate on something like a chassis, but I don't believe either will be using each others parts


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Are you an idiot? Arctic Cat four wheelers suck. Especially their engines. Who is the leader in four stroke Atv engines? I'll let the past 5 years of gncc championships speak for that...
What will Yamaha have new for this year? New cross over and trail sled. Mountain segment will see bng's.
Maybe we could see at least one of these threads stay on track?

I could see Cat trying to collaborate with Yami, (already had Kawi and Suzuki) they will need help with engine development and mfg after losing Suzuki. Did Cat wanted to part with Suzuki after the recent success with the 2strokes?? Yea right. I cant see a small co. like Cat being able to lay out the costs of engine development while enduring the massive warrantee issues and poor sales the last couple years. Doing this on their own would likely put them under, especially if the new motors have issues.
Sorry to get thread off track.....but what technology might Yami need from Cat?

--CAT has a 2 stroke motor ready to go. It was going to go in the 2012 sleds for 50th aniv. ProClimb sleds.

--There is a thread and patent info around here somewhere that one of the Cat engineers posted

http://www.patentgenius.com/patent/7168401.html

--It is semi-direct injection which is the best design for power, cooling, and lubrication ---- should rip

---Cat can run 1 more year to 2014 with Suzuki if they want and I hope they do -- don't mess with the best and get the replacement as good or better

carlc said:

Polaris will never be gettin the arctic cat motor. The motor is actually designed by cat and contracted to Suzuki, kinda like Polaris did with the driveshafts, only better. And I don't see cat using the Yamaha motor, cat is the leader on four stroke atv, and why would they have come out with a factory turbo that will handle 275 on pump fuel an has been dynoed by speederx at over 600 horse on stock internals. Maybe they are going to collaborate on something like a chassis, but I don't believe either will be using each others parts


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have yet to see a 1100t that would hang with a tnytro in the mountains dont care what it does on a drag track:face-icon-small-sho:face-icon-small-win
oh would love to see that 600hp stock internal 1100t:flame:

So explain this to me BigFish. WTF does this have to do with a Yamaha thread on new models ?


Ken..............

Givemeaboost said:

So explain this to me BigFish. WTF does this have to do with a Yamaha thread on new models ?


Ken..............

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i have no idea was just looking for clarification from his post,what does your post have to do with new yammi models:face-icon-small-win

I personally hope that yamaha is not using a single arctic cat part on this new sled. Yamaha quality is on a whole different level. Cat chassis/drivetrain is junk imo. If this is a yamaha motor in a cat chassis i will never buy it.

If cat wants to use yamaha motors in their sleds so be it, but i sure hope yamaha keeps building their own sleds. Yes Yamaha overbuilds some stuff, but at least you know its gonna be reliable.

Big Fish BC

Artic 1100 runs and handles good but how are you going to unleash all that power when you cant keep a belt on it !!!!!!!!!!!!!

As far as I'm concerned, the yamaha chassis/suspension leaves nothing to be desired. It's poor in execution and poor in durability. If I'm stuck with a weak chassis, I'd prefer it worked(like the cat).

Hearing the next gen of Yamis will be assembled in Thief River Falls. Anyone else hear this? :face-icon-small-sho

winter brew said:

Hearing the next gen of Yamis will be assembled in Thief River Falls. Anyone else hear this? :face-icon-small-sho

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Hope not!! It would probably increase the value of 2008-2013 Nytro's

winter brew said:

Hearing the next gen of Yamis will be assembled in Thief River Falls. Anyone else hear this? :face-icon-small-sho

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that would surprise me as i think the 120 was the first chassi ever outsourced by yammi they build everything in house.i would think ac would have to meet yammies quality control requirements.

BigFish BC said:

that would surprise me as i think the 120 was the first chassi ever outsourced by yammi they build everything in house.i would think ac would have to meet yammies quality control requirements.

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They also have a wheeler (Grizzly 300) that is out sourced and "built to their specification" I never thought id see that...

Yamaha used to build motors for Honda, and yamaha does not build cars so I can see them using cats chassis. Also yamaha has some new technology in 4 stroke outboard motors that are the lightest in the industry. Combing cat with a new yamaha motor could result in the lightest 4 stroke sled.

Why would the best (Yamaha) pair with the worst ( Arctic Cat)? What would they offer each other? Yamaha certainly doesn't need Arctic Cat to survive.

Yamaha does some strange things once in a while. Like this:http://www.visionarymotorsports.com/linhai/