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900 ACE turbo in a G4?

Calvin42

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Anyone else wanna see a 900 ACE turbo in a G4 Summit? Same motor they have in the Maverick X3? I for one love my G4, but would seriously consider a fourstroke turbo in that chassis.
 

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Nah. Beauty of the Gen4 is engine and chassis were designed around each other. Sounds like 850 w/ silber turbo is going to be the hot item. Reflashed ECU no turbo oil pump etc. pull and go 200hp
 

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I'm with ya on the Silber turbo. Unfortunately, I got the four year warranty and trade sleds every couple years. Would hate to void the warranty.
 

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I would check a four stroke T the day it became available. If you look at the weight difference between the 850 and 900 ace (snow) it would likely surprise allot of you. I’ve been a 2 stroke doo guy all my life both turbo and N/A, but just can’t deny that a 200+ horse four stroke that’s 15lbs heavier in a nimble chassis would change the industry. Looks like doo put all their eggs in the 850 basket though so I might just build my own.
 

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I would check a four stroke T the day it became available. If you look at the weight difference between the 850 and 900 ace (snow) it would likely surprise allot of you. I’ve been a 2 stroke doo guy all my life both turbo and N/A, but just can’t deny that a 200+ horse four stroke that’s 15lbs heavier in a nimble chassis would change the industry. Looks like doo put all their eggs in the 850 basket though so I might just build my own.

15 pounds heavier? How doo you arrive at that??

Per Ski Doo's website:

A 900 ACE Renegade (137 Track) weighs 503 pounds.

An 850 Summit X in a 154 weighs 446. That's a 57 pound difference, before accounting for the longer 154 versus the 137.
 

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Sorry It’s an 11kg difference based off of Rotax.com power plants 41kg(850) 52kg(900) so 24lb difference in engine alone. Not that far off considering. Not hard to make up that difference especially with the way the new chassis’s hide it. After seizing an 850 and blowing a belt on the trail last ride it’s starting to look pretty good. I’m going to wait and see what the 2019 is going to look like, if it’s not something different I might just start shoehorning some frankensled together:face-icon-small-hap
 

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Really do not understand the desire to have a heavier, more complex, higher maintenance engine. :face-icon-small-con

Played the mod-sled game for a lot of years and have not felt the need to mod the 850 E-tec yet. The stock power approaches what the old mod-sleds used to make back in the day.

However a pump gas 200 HP turbo 850 E-Tec would be a hoot!

:face-icon-small-coo
 

chad006

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Really do not understand the desire to have a heavier, more complex, higher maintenance engine. :face-icon-small-con

Played the mod-sled game for a lot of years and have not felt the need to mod the 850 E-tec yet. The stock power approaches what the old mod-sleds used to make back in the day.

However a pump gas 200 HP turbo 850 E-Tec would be a hoot!

:face-icon-small-coo
Not sure I would call a motor that most guys are getting 20,000+kms out of higher maintenance. Weight is an issue that can be overcome rather easily. A two stroke that has both direct and port injection and a cutting edge starting system is less complex then a bare bones 4 stroke? What do you find complex about it? Right now I’m on a turbo etec 174 that works very well I would have a hard time going back to a stock sled.
 

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The 4 stroke will always be 15-25 pounds even heavier than the 850 since the 850 can use the SHOT system versus the electric start needed for the 4 stroke.

The big plus on the 4-stroke is longevity. If Doo or anyone else can give us a 2-stroke with close to 4-stroke longevity that's the ticket. We'll see how the G4 850 does on longevity.
 

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Sorry It’s an 11kg difference based off of Rotax.com power plants 41kg(850) 52kg(900) so 24lb difference in engine alone. Not that far off considering. Not hard to make up that difference especially with the way the new chassis’s hide it. After seizing an 850 and blowing a belt on the trail last ride it’s starting to look pretty good. I’m going to wait and see what the 2019 is going to look like, if it’s not something different I might just start shoehorning some frankensled together:face-icon-small-hap

I've built a couple of 900 ACE's on boost. Nice motor but no 1200 on forced air nor a SW. Keep in mind the weights you have listed need another 25lbs for boost parts installed and its all in the nose..
 

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You can't get the weight off of the front end. I've rode a sidewinder. Million times better than the nytro but can still feel the weight. No thanks.
 
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