STANDALONE ECU PLUG N PLAY DIRECT FACTORY REPLACEMENT 800CC POLARIS ENGINE

[sledstew]

Are there any dealers in Alaska, and if not is there anyone here who could do the tuning? In your earlier videos it showed the tuning being done on a sled dyno and I don't even know of one of those in the state. I really like the concept behind this and will be watching the customer reviews closely, if it all works like you say (no offense ment, just like to hear it from someone who's not selling them on how they work) then I definatly will be going this route. Even if its got the same running character it would be sweet to not have to make any adjustment based on temp and altitude. But if it involves shipping my sled somewhere to get it set up, then having to fine tune again once I get it back here then I'm looking at a LOT more cash than it's worth.

No need to ship your sled anywhere, I think at this point if you can tune a power commander or boondocker I will be able to walk you through the steps to tune your own sled-no problem..... Especially once the boosted map is done ,I have a 2012 ported turbo with a Vipec and Im here to tell you it will be a breeze within the next couple weeks .Shooting for 8-10 psi on pump gas,no promises at this point just information.

 

[m1kflyingtiger]

No need to ship your sled anywhere, I think at this point if you can tune a power commander or boondocker I will be able to walk you through the steps to tune your own sled-no problem..... Especially once the boosted map is done ,I have a 2012 ported turbo with a Vipec and Im here to tell you it will be a breeze within the next couple weeks .Shooting for 8-10 psi on pump gas,no promises at this point just information.

What elevation are you hoping to get the 8-10 lbs on pump at? Definatly keep us posted! I downloaded the software to explore a little but the computer battery died (on the phone now). Can a safety feature be programmed in to add fuel/limp mode, based on egt or afr for a tuning situation such as on the hill having to plug in a lap top to make changes to keep you from burning the sled down while tuning without being hooked to the dyno?

Also have you had much inquiry from other turbo kit builders? Ie: should I be waiting till the designer of my kit pre programs them to run with my current set up?

 

[sledstew]

What elevation are you hoping to get the 8-10 lbs on pump at? Definatly keep us posted! I downloaded the software to explore a little but the computer battery died (on the phone now). Can a safety feature be programmed in to add fuel/limp mode, based on egt or afr for a tuning situation such as on the hill having to plug in a lap top to make changes to keep you from burning the sled down while tuning without being hooked to the dyno?

Also have you had much inquiry from other turbo kit builders? Ie: should I be waiting till the designer of my kit pre programs them to run with my current set up?

Hoping to get 8-10 psi at low elevation,testing is starting at the lower elevations on boost,then we will take it to high elevation. I have no hard info right now but those numbers are very realistic especially with full ignition control and precise fueling within .5% error!!

Safety features: Yes you can add ignition cut %,rpm cut, endless possibilities for this ecu.

Ok think of it this way: If you tune fuel your sled to run at the highest boost you will ever run ,lets say 14 psi. From 14 psi and down the map will be set so if you go to 7 psi to ride for the day you will not fiddle with anything except boost pressure adjustment. Especially since most run from 6 -12 psi anyway when the pro RMk is running well.Anything more than 10 psi with the Vipec is arm wrenching trust me!!!!! Averaging just under 10hp per pound of boost!!!!!!

 

[jeepin270]

No need to ship your sled anywhere, I think at this point if you can tune a power commander or boondocker I will be able to walk you through the steps to tune your own sled-no problem..... Especially once the boosted map is done ,I have a 2012 ported turbo with a Vipec and Im here to tell you it will be a breeze within the next couple weeks .Shooting for 8-10 psi on pump gas,no promises at this point just information.

So wuts the deal with these things as far as 08 to 10 sleds? Is there devolopment going into making these plug an play? Is there only gonna be base mapping for the pro's?

 

[m1kflyingtiger]

Hoping to get 8-10 psi at low elevation,testing is starting at the lower elevations on boost,then we will take it to high elevation. I have no hard info right now but those numbers are very realistic especially with full ignition control and precise fueling within .5% error!!

Safety features: Yes you can add ignition cut %,rpm cut, endless possibilities for this ecu.

Ok think of it this way: If you tune fuel your sled to run at the highest boost you will ever run ,lets say 14 psi. From 14 psi and down the map will be set so if you go to 7 psi to ride for the day you will not fiddle with anything except boost pressure adjustment. Especially since most run from 6 -12 psi anyway when the pro RMk is running well.Anything more than 10 psi with the Vipec is arm wrenching trust me!!!!! Averaging just under 10hp per pound of boost!!!!!!

Right on. I ride at sea level to 3-4000 (usually unloading right at sea level) so I'm definatly interested in how this testing goes. I have no problem runnin better fuel and she's an animal at 8-10 lbs as is. But I really like the "set it and forget it" idea behind having a true pull the rope and go turbo. I'm sure you will, but keep us in the loop on how she does. I'd love to run it, and most likely will in the fairly near future, just don't like being the ginney pig.

 

[Vi-PEC Powersports]

Hoping to get 8-10 psi at low elevation,testing is starting at the lower elevations on boost,then we will take it to high elevation. I have no hard info right now but those numbers are very realistic especially with full ignition control and precise fueling within .5% error!!

Safety features: Yes you can add ignition cut %,rpm cut, endless possibilities for this ecu.

Ok think of it this way: If you tune fuel your sled to run at the highest boost you will ever run ,lets say 14 psi. From 14 psi and down the map will be set so if you go to 7 psi to ride for the day you will not fiddle with anything except boost pressure adjustment. Especially since most run from 6 -12 psi anyway when the pro RMk is running well.Anything more than 10 psi with the Vipec is arm wrenching trust me!!!!! Averaging just under 10hp per pound of boost!!!!!!

jake, i have to correct you on this one!! every pound of boost is producing13-16 hp....not 8-10.....i think we mistunderstood on this one!!!that is with no head shim(incredible throttle response low rpm compare to a head shim taking compression down).

 

[sledstew]

So wuts the deal with these things as far as 08 to 10 sleds? Is there devolopment going into making these plug an play? Is there only gonna be base mapping for the pro's?

yes eventually but please understand it takes a good deal of time to do this correctly. The map is fairly easy to do but the attention to detail takes time.

 

[sledstew]

jake, i have to correct you on this one!! every pound of boost is producing13-16 hp....not 8-10.....i think we mistunderstood on this one!!!that is with no head shim(incredible throttle response low rpm compare to a head shim taking compression down).

Well there goes the surprise effect!!!!! LOL

 

[francois]

haha doesnt matter, you don't need the surprise effect, just a good products that works!

 

[fleck]

Hey guys finally got to ride a sled with the new stand alone ecu in it. Its 100% night and day different machine the throttle responce is rediculios and it pulls like no other. There is and can be more tuning done to it yet to make it even better no doubt in my mind i will be putting one on my sled shortly. best power gains and tunning mechanism made to this day!!!!

 

[pus1100]

Hey guys finally got to ride a sled with the new stand alone ecu in it. Its 100% night and day different machine the throttle responce is rediculios and it pulls like no other. There is and can be more tuning done to it yet to make it even better no doubt in my mind i will be putting one on my sled shortly. best power gains and tunning mechanism made to this day!!!!

stocker or turbo?

 

[fleck]

This new stand alone ecu is unbelieavable, have you ever ridden a 800 with twin pipes and fuel controller and all that nonsence and were like wow this things rips well this stand alone is above and beyond that i rode a stock sled with just the stand alone on it and its uncomparable to anything else. and the best part of it is that if you have one there is no need for a fuel controller and all that. if you have a turbo you dont need the fuel controller you can dile it all in on the ecu and make adjustments when needed. IT's THE REAL DEAL. today i was lucky enough to see what it does on my friends turbo. the stuff you can do with this is unreal any adjust you can think of your in control of it.

 

[sledstew]

Ok everyone just a quick update on how things are rolling:

This week I had a chance to spend three days testing the Vi-pec with a few different combinations. To start with I put the Vi-pec on the dyno with a 100% stock sled and had good results , plugs were really rich and the timing was spot on and pulled an extra 4.6 hp out of it.

Field Test: Stock sled was extremely impressive on throttle response and midrange power-huge seat of the pants feel from this setup. The smallest moves of the throttle were noticable and the power curve felt really good. Even though the map was pig rich it still felt way smoother and more crisp than the stock ecu.


2nd Test: After the Vipec was added to the stock sled we added a pipe and can with the stock Y-pipe . This was a huge improvement, it made the sled feel like my pro turbo on 4 or 5 psi boost. I had at least 4 customers stop by and take it for a rip and every single one of them had a grin from ear to ear. Very impressive to say the least. Next step is to add the Y-pipe and then the ported cylinder.

I can honestly say I have not ridden a big bore 800 to 925 that pulled like this sled with just the Vi-pec and the pipe so far , we are excited to get the y-pipe and porting on this baby soon and see what kind of gains we can acheive.


P.S. We will be in Cooke City testing in the next week or so,If you are interested in taking one of these sleds for a rip feel free to drop me a pm.

 

[Dustin_R]

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNSc9gO4WBI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Here is a short clip of the ported 2012 Assault,HM Turbo
The Video quality isnt that good but you get the idea

Link doesnt work stew, will check back in a few.

 

[m1kflyingtiger]

Ok everyone just a quick update on how things are rolling:

This week I had a chance to spend three days testing the Vi-pec with a few different combinations. To start with I put the Vi-pec on the dyno with a 100% stock sled and had good results , plugs were really rich and the timing was spot on and pulled an extra 4.6 hp out of it.

Field Test: Stock sled was extremely impressive on throttle response and midrange power-huge seat of the pants feel from this setup. The smallest moves of the throttle were noticable and the power curve felt really good. Even though the map was pig rich it still felt way smoother and more crisp than the stock ecu.


2nd Test: After the Vipec was added to the stock sled we added a pipe and can with the stock Y-pipe . This was a huge improvement, it made the sled feel like my pro turbo on 4 or 5 psi boost. I had at least 4 customers stop by and take it for a rip and every single one of them had a grin from ear to ear. Very impressive to say the least. Next step is to add the Y-pipe and then the ported cylinder.

I can honestly say I have not ridden a big bore 800 to 925 that pulled like this sled with just the Vi-pec and the pipe so far , we are excited to get the y-pipe and porting on this baby soon and see what kind of gains we can acheive.


P.S. We will be in Cooke City testing in the next week or so,If you are interested in taking one of these sleds for a rip feel free to drop me a pm.

So lets say the sled is running awesome with a dobec fuel controller now. Is there a way to plug in the ecu with the fuel controller and data log what programming is on the fuel controller to import that into the new ecu?

 

[sledstew]

So lets say the sled is running awesome with a dobec fuel controller now. Is there a way to plug in the ecu with the fuel controller and data log what programming is on the fuel controller to import that into the new ecu?

yes and No, yes you could datalog the info to get the 02 readings at specific rpm range and go back and redo the 4D fuel map (Boost Map). It would be a bit easier but I dont think its going to be hard to build the boost map starting from scratch. The map is only from 4500 RPM to 8500 should be real easy. The Baro inside the ecu is actually sensitive enough that when you put boost to it the ecu actually does I would say 80% of the compensating aready.
Ill know more in 2 weeks for sure,we are trying different avenues of approach to get the simplest way for the consumer. Timing is alot of the Boost map and up to present has not been perfected by anyone. This also will be available.

 

[m1kflyingtiger]

yes and No, yes you could datalog the info to get the 02 readings at specific rpm range and go back and redo the 4D fuel map (Boost Map). It would be a bit easier but I dont think its going to be hard to build the boost map starting from scratch. The map is only from 4500 RPM to 8500 should be real easy. The Baro inside the ecu is actually sensitive enough that when you put boost to it the ecu actually does I would say 80% of the compensating aready.
Ill know more in 2 weeks for sure,we are trying different avenues of approach to get the simplest way for the consumer. Timing is alot of the Boost map and up to present has not been perfected by anyone. This also will be available.

so rather than a atmospheric baro it would just hook into the airbox or throttle bodies and read true baro in the motor?

 

[sledstew]

so rather than a atmospheric baro it would just hook into the airbox or throttle bodies and read true baro in the motor?

yes , we use a 3 or 4 bar map sensor so after so many KPA of boost ,lets say 2 psi the 4D map takes over based off the KPA reading and the 4 D ignition map is for Boost.

 

[Vi-PEC Powersports]

ignition mapping done on turbo application

Hi gys,
just a short clip of the polaris rmk on boost at 6psi on pump gas 91 octane...we have the complete control of fuel/ignition/boost and we are very happy with what we saw so far....you guys must start to get in shap because that thing at only 6 lbs is pulling as hard as my 2009 dragon(hm turbo) at 12 lbs!! more to come this week.....in 2 weeks time, we will be in USA for some test ride and test drive too! location will be annonced later next week.

 

[Cody Phillips Racing]

Hi gys,
just a short clip of the polaris rmk on boost at 6psi on pump gas 91 octane...we have the complete control of fuel/ignition/boost and we are very happy with what we saw so far....you guys must start to get in shap because that thing at only 6 lbs is pulling as hard as my 2009 dragon(hm turbo) at 12 lbs!! more to come this week.....in 2 weeks time, we will be in USA for some test ride and test drive too! location will be annonced later next week.

Can't wait to start testing the Vi-PEC box in Utah in the coming week, we'll be riding from 8k to 10k elevation on turbo'd and n/a sleds. I've personally been tuning stand alone engine management systems from MoTeC, AEM, FAST, VI-PEC, Megasquirt, HP Tuners, and a few others for about 9 years now. The benefits/features you can do with a stand alone is damn near limitless.

We'll likely be introducing a water/meth system that will allow the VI-PEC to be controlling the arming of the system and still maintain pump gas for easier starts vs. race gas or E85. We'll also be testing E-85 in my personal sled . Standalones are must in the car world when building and controlling turbo charged engines. The sled world is slowly coming around and I'm excited to be a part of the tuning process. We'll be posting our results and videos as they come in and we're truely excited.....