Turbos are almost ALWAYS a financial loss.When I first joined it wasn't long before determined all the cool snowmobilers had turbos. After much soul searching I determined I was indeed a cool snowmobiler so I had to have one. It was a disaster. Never ran right, got it figured out about the time I was so sick of it I sold it for a huge loss.
That made me laugh.Wow! Some pretty bold statements there.In my opinion, no forum is as bad as totally yamaha.
Okay.Although I don't like how LoudHandle behaves, he is on to something this time. As a manufacturer and seller of sled products, Snowest sure does not make this forum easy for a small business to grow. I have supplied product for testing (to Harris Pub.) and nothing has come of it. I am asked regularly for my advertising money but we simply are not big enough yet to afford to play with the "Big Boys". We can't even get listed in the vendors list unless we spend beyond $1000/year. R&D is expensive and we tirelessly work on new products and we are told by our customers that it is appreciated. We could easily just buy and sell the same products as everybody else and then maybe we could afford the cost to advertise. Finally we don't want a free ride and would up the advertising dollars when a magazine issue would include a real test of one of our products.
I know I don't make a real distinction between the forum and the magazine but from our point of view it is all the same.
So Christopher, so how about we send you a demo Phantom Teth-Air and you install it on your Doo and let your readers know if you like it? I guess the one we sent to Harris Pub. was a waste of time.Okay.
Just to make sure you and I are on the exact same sheet of music here.
Harris Publishing "OWNS" the SnoWest Forums.
But they do not manage or run it.
I run the site full time as a completely independent contractor.
They establish a set of guidelines for how they would like to me run it on their behalf, and the rest is pretty well left up to me.
I have absolutely nothing to do with the magazine nor with their advertising. They manage the "Boarders" (Top, Right Side and Bottom) of the forum space where the ads appear, I run all the internal content.
Over the last 10 years my experience has been that those manufacturers that chose to take on an ACTIVE role in participating in the forums themselves by posting and replying by far and away have the most success in promoting their products. And when myself or one of the other members does an "Installation and Review Article" those tend to get very good response.
Members desperately want HONEST UNBIASED feedback on what actually WORKS and what DOESN'T, and in today's market place that has become increasingly hard to come by.
$1200 onesies don’t help. Gearing up these days costs almost as much as the sled. Having said that the Polaris shift or Indy is a step in the right directionThe real cure to the forum/snowmobiling dieing is to lower the buy in cost of machines. It seems all that the industry is doing is trying to make everything "better" and forgetting that some people don't need "better". A good 4-6k machine that can trail well and survive off trail would boost the sport big time. Ive still got a 1987 el tigre 530 kicking around that does just fine in up to 2' of powder with 1/2" lugs and a 121. There always will be a market for monster machines but most people really dont need them or even have the skill to use them.
I have to plead ignorance here, so please excuse me..So Christopher, so how about we send you a demo Phantom Teth-Air and you install it on your Doo and let your readers know if you like it? I guess the one we sent to Harris Pub. was a waste of time.
My turn to climb up on the soapbox..Without derailing this further, I need to chime in now. Yes, the sport is freaking expensive. Many of us are trying to support a family. The sleds are expensive. The gear is expensive. The travel is expensive. But... (cue up mastercard commercial here...) the trips, the memories, the PEOPLE, they keep us wanting more. Yup, priceless. I love how my pretty much stock sled performs, I love how my gear keeps me warm and dry, I love how my avy gear keeps us safe(er), and I love how all the things I learn here help me enjoy the sport more. But it all costs money. And hey, if it was generally TOO affordable then the riding areas would be even MORE crowded and guys would be complaining about that. Bottom line, I give up a lot to ride, paid in the currencies of cash, gas, dirty hands, worn out belts etc etc... but it’s so much fun and it what keeps me going.
Ok, hopping off the soapbox now. And looking forward to pemby.
I don’t want to speak for Teth-Air; but in short it is a leashless tether. I believe low power RF transmitter is worn and a receiver is mounted on the sled, if they loose communication with each other the reciever assumes you are no longer in control of the sled and instigates the shut down.I have to plead ignorance here, so please excuse me..
What does the Teth-Air do differently that the current Ski-Doo Tethered Key??
Lack of control of troublemakers has been the cause of the forum demise that I have seen. I posted the fix for the dreaded Viper front ends issue in the Viper section and I get bashed from a guy that doesn't even own a Yamaha but hangs around only to cause trouble. So I delete my post and move on.
Said my piece deleted my fix for the Viper and have no use to continue to come over here to be bashed by garbage trolls. Need anything you know where to find me.