Just a hunch - the 16 800 M looks like it could be a very solid stock sled. After more than 5 years of trying, it should be. New team clutches have to work. If cat pushes out a new M chassis for 17, we get poor early snow, etc., unsold units are gonna get blown out in early 16, too. There may be some very good deals on the 2S stock 800's early next year - especially if you're not brand loyal. Poo and cat have to delivery the goods, which seems likely.