Quick Clicker Kit

offtrail · Oct 12, 2011

Have a 2012 on the way. I am planning on putting a clutch kit in the sled but want to wait till some testing on the clutching is done when the snow flys. Since the 2012's have some updated clutching from skidoo. Just have to see if it works or not. So anyway I would like to put a quick clicker kit in for the time being. Just wondering what kits you guys are using on your sleds?

winter brew · Oct 12, 2011

We will be testing our '12 163 once we get snow. Keep in mind there are significant changes from '11- '12. Different track, different clutching, MUCH lower gearing, new ECU mapping, maybe a new belt. It's impossible to say what will work and what will not.
I am excited about the direction they have gone with clutching! Looks like a much more mountain oriented setup with the elimination of the reverse angle helix....this is a good thing IMO!
I think it will work very good out of the box, so Doo is making my job harder and harder every year. We will be trying to address any weaknesses in the clutching....what those are remains to be seen without seat time in a variety of conditions.
First thing you should look for is getting the correct RPM on clicker #3-4, which is done with a pin weight change. The sled will act wierd as it progresses through break-in so don't make any judgements until it has completed the break-in period which was close to 400 miles on the '11's.

Tim Healy · Oct 12, 2011

winter do you know where I can get my hands on one a new clutch for my "09"

byeatts · Oct 12, 2011

winter brew said:
We will be testing our '12 163 once we get snow. Keep in mind there are significant changes from '11- '12. Different track, different clutching, MUCH lower grearing, new ECU mapping. It's impossible to say what will work and what will not.
I am excited about the direction they have gone with clutching! Looks like a much more mountain oriented setup with the elimination of the reverse angle helix....this is a good thing IMO!
I think it will work very good out of the box, so Doo is making my job harder and harder every year. We will be trying to address any weaknesses in the clutching....what those are remains to be seen without seat time in a variety of conditions.
First thing you should look for is getting the correct RPM on clicker #3-4, which is done with a pin weight change. The sled will act wierd as it progresses through break-in so don't make any judgements until it has completed the break-in period which was close to 400 miles on the '11's.

What gearing and drivers in 2012?.

winter brew · Oct 12, 2011

Same drivers (as far as I know) and I believe the 154 will be 21/49 and the 163 21/51....but I'm not 100% positive on that, I don't trust the specs until I see it with my own eyes, they have been wrong in the past.

Highmarker · Oct 12, 2011

I put 21/49 in my '09 xp. Better, but still not great. I think gearing is less of a problem on these sleds than clutching. And in my opinion, it's not so much the clutching calibration as it is the heat build up and fade you get as a result. Floating secondary should be factory if you ask me. And Brew, your right, glad to see that reverse helix go!! Although it doesn't matter much to me anymore as I went to the Cat side this year.

Tim Healy · Oct 13, 2011

the 2011 154" I pull apart had 19/45 gears in it

winter brew · Oct 13, 2011

Highmarker said:
I put 21/49 in my '09 xp. Better, but still not great. I think gearing is less of a problem on these sleds than clutching. And in my opinion, it's not so much the clutching calibration as it is the heat build up and fade you get as a result. Floating secondary should be factory if you ask me. And Brew, your right, glad to see that reverse helix go!! Although it doesn't matter much to me anymore as I went to the Cat side this year.

Clutching and gearing have to be coordinated (IMO)....some clutching works better with taller gears, some works best with lower gears.
And yes, keeping heat down helps keep things consistant.
The '12's also have a clutch cooling duct that Doo swears drops temps 25-30 degrees. If true, that will be great!..and it fits the older XP's for about $40.
Also heard the clutch is clocked to the crank (rumor mill) so perhaps they have done something to improve balance and reduce vibration. If so, this will also help with temps and clutch wear.

Dynamo^Joe · Oct 13, 2011

offtrail said:
Have a 2012 on the way. I am planning on putting a clutch kit in the sled but want to wait till some testing on the clutching is done when the snow flys. Since the 2012's have some updated clutching from skidoo. Just have to see if it works or not. So anyway I would like to put a quick clicker kit in for the time being. Just wondering what kits you guys are using on your sleds?

http://motsmachining.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=32&Itemid=60

jacmmaxwell · Oct 13, 2011

I could not find the Mots ones DJ listed when I bought the ones for my RT. You can now find them at

http://motsmachining.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=32&Itemid=60

I ended up using the ones from Grip and Rip racing and was happy with them

Grip and Rip has the same " style " in that they do not replace the stock clicker bolt. Rather just add the new end.

This " style " clicker retains the stock clicker bolt and there for the stock calibration and eliminates pour manufacturing control found on some brands of quick clickers that replace the entire bolt and that been found to be nearly round vs offset/oval of the stock clicker bolt.

http://www.gripnripracing.com/product_info.php?products_id=120

9 Iron · Oct 13, 2011

winter brew said:
Looks like a much more mountain oriented setup with the elimination of the reverse angle helix....this is a good thing IMO!
.

why do you think the elimination of the reverse angle helix is a good?

byeatts · Oct 13, 2011

winter brew said:
Same drivers (as far as I know) and I believe the 154 will be 21/49 and the 163 21/51....but I'm not 100% positive on that, I don't trust the specs until I see it with my own eyes, they have been wrong in the past.

BRP shows two separate gearing charts. The 2.5 163 is 19/51 and 154 19/49. Too low in my opinion.I agree we need to see one

winter brew · Oct 13, 2011

9 Iron said:
why do you think the elimination of the reverse angle helix is a good?

Not good in a big track mountain application....for a mix of riding or the flats it's fine.
It doesn't generate enough squeeze at higher shift ratios where you need more belt squeeze to lessen slipage as you lose belt-to-sheave contact area.
It was done to meet sound and emission standards, or so I have been told from a few different sources. Makes sense since they eliminated it with the etec as it can likely meet those without clutching manipulation.

winter brew · Oct 13, 2011

byeatts said:
BRP shows two separate gearing charts. The 2.5 163 is 19/51 and 154 19/49. Too low in my opinion.I agree we need to see one

I'm a fan of low gears.
The only downside to being TOO low (from what I've seen) is lower top speed and RPM "hunting"....but with the softer belt and squishy-soft secondary spring I would think this would help to stabilize RPM.

xpspenziv · Oct 13, 2011

brew can get these kits.

skidoo172 · Oct 13, 2011

quick klickers

Buy the original quick klickers from between the lines designs all the others that are selling them in America are infringing on a Patented design. The ones Mot's are selling were designed after they ordered from BTLD and made their own version. Pretty cheezy imo.

offtrail · Oct 14, 2011

thanks everybody for all the info.

whitefish · Oct 18, 2011

offtrail said:
thanks everybody for all the info.

I have the original patented quick clickers in stock with great pricing. PM me if interested. Any other copy is an infringement on the originals patent which show little regard to good business practice.

TT670 · Oct 19, 2011

It appears the Motts design doesnt require an allen wrench, that alone would be reason enough for me to consider theirs over the BTLD piece.

skidoo172 · Oct 20, 2011

quick clickers

If kept clean and installed correctly you can change BTLD ones with fingers also. The MOTS ones are also an illegal copy in the USA because of patent rights to the product. Although the allen stock may seem "heavy" you won't even know it's on your sled in the tool kit. Support USA businesses!!!
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