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OK folks...hope someone can help me. My engine turns over extremely tough and if im lucky enough to get it started it runs fine all day and starts warm but thats only if im lucky enough to get it started and even in plus 50F she is a monster to turn over...and this problem started a year ago and this unit has very few miles.

I take the belt off...no difference...i take the starter recoil off and wrap a rope around hub and still the same.
I have removed power valves and pipe and still the same.
If i remove one plug at a time still the same but with a plug removed from each cylinder then she rolls easy.
The pistons and cylinders are in awesome shape from what i see through the plugs\powervalves and exhaust.
I have never blown a belt on this machine but is it possible still my crank ended up out of phase..?? any help appreciatted..
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Stock primary clutch or P-85?
Lighter clutch makes it harder to pull over.

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its a stock clutch with the thunder cover upgrades and adjustable weights...all seems fine...its not just hard to turn over...its a real tug and its a chore to get over center...but i have done nothing to change my compression...and she rolls easy with the plugs out...and when it is lucky enough to start it runs fine for hours and my egts and air/fuel and temps are in the zone. I am possibly going to put back the stock recoil hub that bolts onto the mag as i had put on a bdx titanium a couple years back and maybe out of round or something...don;t think its a bent connecting rod as all looks good. Its real strange...pulls hard like pulling up a deep well pump with a 3/4hp pump 100 feet down..
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I'd pull the recoil starter housing to see if something is binding or loose. My 2 cts.
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You have a bdx oil delete eh? Could the shaft be seizing?i have an old f7/800 rktek with bdx oil delete & out of the blue it almost stops when trying to pull it over. It runs killer though.
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What oil are you using? I used to use Amsoil in my sled and it was hard as hell to pull over when first starting. Of course that was a 990 kk and not a 800 but the oil when cold was really gummy. Good luck
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the oil is fine...and outside temps above 50...i have the recoil off as i thought under load the rope was "wedging" in the pulley..but no such luck..and if the oil delete shaft was an issue i would expect it to turn over tight even with the plugs out but it rolls easy with the plugs out....but with one plug in she rolls hard...both plugs in its a friggen tug of war...oh well i will tinker this weekend some more ...lol..what a mystery though..
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Trade it in on an Alpha.... lol

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Any sign of excessive fuel coming out of the spark plug holes when you pull it over with the plugs out? Seems like you are getting too much compression and if the float or needle and seat in one or both of the carbs is leaking fuel into the engine when it sits this could raise the compression. I'd do a compression test first thing.
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