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Over the winter, I saw a lot of guys bashing the hell out of the Proclimb. Basically, they said it sucks. Why?
The Proclimb is a great fickin sled! Yes, some 800's have had belt issues. M1100T's have had reverse issues.
The first thing typically said is the Pro is lighter. Well, I saw a 2012 stock Proclimb go up against a 2012 Pro, and guess who out marked the other? It wasn't the lighter sled. I have always said, give me 10 hp or lose 10 pounds, I will take the ponies every time.
Here are my thoughts-
Engine- Cat (Suzuki) makes the most powerful and reliable engine out there. Through the M series and now PC, the engine has always been a strong point. I like knowing when I go riding, I will get home becuase the engines are extremely reliable.
Chassis- I like it. When I get on my M1000 now, it feels low, unresponsive and dated. I like the way you sit up on the PC. It gives great leverage for Boondocking and carving turns. Confortable to sit or stand on. I think the new chassis is a huge improvement over the M. Does it need some tweaking? Sure, but not a bad first effort.
Strength- These sleds, like the M's are TOUGH! I have hit, rubbed, smashed and blasted through and over stuff that should have destroyed spindles, broken tunnels, grenaded panels and mauled running boards. I know a XP would not take that kind of abuse, and I doubt a Pro would either. Sleds may be heavier, but they are built like tanks and can take far more abuse in my opinion than either a Pro or a XP (XM). Run a Doo or Poo HARD for a few years and see how they hold up.
Cost- My buddy rents Doo's to tourists. I have an idea of what it costs to fix one. Holy Crap! The parts are insanely expensive. I always though Cat parts were reasonable. I have done my share of damage over the years and it was never unreasonable to fix the damage.
So, for 2013 you have a Poo coming out at 417 Dry (or whatever it is). Will it be reliable? Will it take serious abuse? Will the engine hold together? When you go that light, you have to compromise. This thing to could fold in half like a taco when pushed. Structural integrity could be a serious issue like the Doo a few years ago. They never did really solve the Dragon and 900 engine issues, have they solved the Pro one's?
Me, I am not going anywhere. So the 2013 cat is heavier. Well, good for it. At least I know when I smash over that downed tree, hit a rock coming out a chute, or roll it 5 times, it will get me home. Plus, I know I have 15 more hp under the hood and my engine won't grenade in the middle of a season.
Everyone seems to think the goal of the manufactures is to build the lightest sled. Is it? How about a light, reliable, responsive, RUGGED sled? One that last years. One that comes home everynight. One that is very powerful. One that takes a backcountry, boondocking beating without breaking a sweat and comes back asking for more. One that is fun and does everything extremely well, from Boondocking to climbing.
So, before everyone screams Poo, 1. wait. See if it hold together and is everything promised. Remember, this sled is glued together and is trying a new drive system. 2. The Cat maybe heavier, but I think it is more than a match for anything else. 3. The Cat wears it's weight well. It is a well balanced sled and you can use the wieght to your advantage. 4. So, it isn't narrow enough for you, light enough or powerful enough? Well, Cat probably has more aftermarket parts available to custom design your sled the Yammi, Doo and Poo combined. Pipes, cans, tracks, intakes, big bores, turbos, suspension, and the list goes on and on and on. They are pretty freindly to mods.
Lighter is not always better.........
The Proclimb is a great fickin sled! Yes, some 800's have had belt issues. M1100T's have had reverse issues.
The first thing typically said is the Pro is lighter. Well, I saw a 2012 stock Proclimb go up against a 2012 Pro, and guess who out marked the other? It wasn't the lighter sled. I have always said, give me 10 hp or lose 10 pounds, I will take the ponies every time.
Here are my thoughts-
Engine- Cat (Suzuki) makes the most powerful and reliable engine out there. Through the M series and now PC, the engine has always been a strong point. I like knowing when I go riding, I will get home becuase the engines are extremely reliable.
Chassis- I like it. When I get on my M1000 now, it feels low, unresponsive and dated. I like the way you sit up on the PC. It gives great leverage for Boondocking and carving turns. Confortable to sit or stand on. I think the new chassis is a huge improvement over the M. Does it need some tweaking? Sure, but not a bad first effort.
Strength- These sleds, like the M's are TOUGH! I have hit, rubbed, smashed and blasted through and over stuff that should have destroyed spindles, broken tunnels, grenaded panels and mauled running boards. I know a XP would not take that kind of abuse, and I doubt a Pro would either. Sleds may be heavier, but they are built like tanks and can take far more abuse in my opinion than either a Pro or a XP (XM). Run a Doo or Poo HARD for a few years and see how they hold up.
Cost- My buddy rents Doo's to tourists. I have an idea of what it costs to fix one. Holy Crap! The parts are insanely expensive. I always though Cat parts were reasonable. I have done my share of damage over the years and it was never unreasonable to fix the damage.
So, for 2013 you have a Poo coming out at 417 Dry (or whatever it is). Will it be reliable? Will it take serious abuse? Will the engine hold together? When you go that light, you have to compromise. This thing to could fold in half like a taco when pushed. Structural integrity could be a serious issue like the Doo a few years ago. They never did really solve the Dragon and 900 engine issues, have they solved the Pro one's?
Me, I am not going anywhere. So the 2013 cat is heavier. Well, good for it. At least I know when I smash over that downed tree, hit a rock coming out a chute, or roll it 5 times, it will get me home. Plus, I know I have 15 more hp under the hood and my engine won't grenade in the middle of a season.
Everyone seems to think the goal of the manufactures is to build the lightest sled. Is it? How about a light, reliable, responsive, RUGGED sled? One that last years. One that comes home everynight. One that is very powerful. One that takes a backcountry, boondocking beating without breaking a sweat and comes back asking for more. One that is fun and does everything extremely well, from Boondocking to climbing.
So, before everyone screams Poo, 1. wait. See if it hold together and is everything promised. Remember, this sled is glued together and is trying a new drive system. 2. The Cat maybe heavier, but I think it is more than a match for anything else. 3. The Cat wears it's weight well. It is a well balanced sled and you can use the wieght to your advantage. 4. So, it isn't narrow enough for you, light enough or powerful enough? Well, Cat probably has more aftermarket parts available to custom design your sled the Yammi, Doo and Poo combined. Pipes, cans, tracks, intakes, big bores, turbos, suspension, and the list goes on and on and on. They are pretty freindly to mods.
Lighter is not always better.........
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