Video: 2014 Yamaha Viper

[Mcx Nytro]

Followup Question.
How many more will Yamaha produce??

AND

Will the Viper, in an MTX configuration be the replacement for the Nytro..

OR..

Will we see a NEW COMPETITIVE MOUNTAIN SLED in 12 months...

I would like to say yes to the last? but I am not holding my breath. If cat would put a yami 2 stroke in that chassie with a real mtn setup that would be nice. I like the fact of the Yami clutching, bar none the best in the business, 2000 k's on one belt and it still is a spare. To bad they don't tell us the weight. Was there no scale at the shows??? Thanks for the input Chris

 

[christopher]

I think we will know in 6 months one way or the other...

 

[BigFish BC]

For the last 5 years we have all been waiting for Yamaha to make some major changes. Now that they make the HUGE change, everyone is complaining that they didn't do it fast enough or deep enough in their product line.

Man, I would hate to be them right now for all the anger coming from SnoWest today.

if they had done something big i would be the first in line to get one. been riding yammi sleds for 20years,but putting a nytro motor in the compititions 2year old chassi is not huge.iam not going to say its bad or i hate yammi.but iam not going to give them a thumbs up for this.i see some positive stuff on this sled push button rev,like where they put the battery,closed loop fuel injection.but in the end it a 2 year old chassi that looks like a arctic cat sorry thats not huge.this is just a opinion of a long time die hard yammi guy take it for what its worth this is not huge they are 2 years behind again.

 

[xpx5]

If you wanna know the weight goto arctic cats web site !!! Wow a 2 year old ac chassis you guys are excited !!! Will the chain case Handel 300+ hp like the Yamaha did ???

 

[M5-]

Pretty sad. Not much of a business model, cop out trail sled then next season, a year late as ususal we can throw some patched together POS out to shut up the mountain guys. I can't believe that there are peeps who are excited to wait yet another year, even though I've only ever ridden Yami I guess this means I am not a "True Believer", LOL, whatever, fortunately I already built the sled Yami should have built 5 years ago. They have all the pieces of the puzzle right there in front of them they just choose not to see them. It's arrogant for them to think this is where the Yami "Faithful/Believers" were hoping to go. This ones going to bite them in the A$$.


M5

 

[stingray719]

I found I needed to go back through this thread and disregard all the posts from the Polaris guys. You Poo guys do know your icon next to your name gives you away? Makes me want to go to the Poo forum and point out I have 5 Yamaha sleds to include two that are boosted and I DONT WORK ON THEM!!!!! well except for the third party boosted stuff.....

It is my firm belief that Yamaha knows they cannot make money on sleds (compared to the rest of Yamaha) so they make them rock solid to get you to buy there other products. If you look back you can even see when this started. Cat however does need to make money so I would expect them to push Yamaha engines close to the limit. We will see.............

 

[kam]

You're looking at it from the wrong perspective. Did they do something big? No, they did something huge but in a totally different direction than what dealers wanted. My dad has 3 new MTX Nytros. 1-153 2011. 2-162 2012(one STILL CRATED). He has tried to give them away the past 2 years but nobody wants a sled that they need to stick another $6000 at least into it just to keep up. Our customers want something out of the crate that works. Yamaha is unable to come out with their own chassis, so today we lost 2 customers in the 3 hours I was at the shop today and won't come back till Yamaha has a proven chassis.

I thought they just put their motor into a proven chassis with the procross chassis. Cat might have had some clutching issues, but their chassis has been awesome the last two years. Even if all they do is add their motor to the ProClimb chassis next year, it will still be leaps and bounds ahead of the nytro chassis for ease of handling in the trees. Either way, for them to really take a step forward they needs something that will excite people from the box, which means at least a 180hp + stock form 4strk or something more light weight.

Either way, it can't be a bad thing for the snowmobile community to have two strong brands like Arctic Cat and Yamaha together. So before we @$#%-ing lose it on them, lets wait and see what they have to show us and stop whinning like a bunch of spoiled kids who didnt get what they wanted for Christmas. I swear to god, if they come out with something amazing next year, Im making a thread of all you whinners and posting everything you said on here just to prove you're all ungrateful @$$-holes.

 

[madmini660]

i know i have skidoo by my name but have loved yamaha since the mountain max had four of them and was really hoping to throw a leg over a yamaha sled again tell i saw this video i'm really let down was hoping to have a new yamaha in the shop next few year but if thats what the mountain sleds will be like no thanks not trying to piss anyone off i'm a yamaha guy at heart just was expecting more

 

[stingray719]

i know i have skidoo by my name but have loved yamaha since the mountain max had four of them and was really hoping to throw a leg over a yamaha sled again tell i saw this video i'm really let down was hoping to have a new yamaha in the shop next few year but if thats what the mountain sleds will be like no thanks not trying to piss anyone off i'm a yamaha guy at heart just was expecting more

Good point. But do the math and see if it would make sense for Yamaha to spend the R&D for a new mountain sled from scratch? Any idea how few total mountain sleds are sold? Christopher please post last years numbers if you have them for all brands mountain only. I had them once but lost them.

What would be a good second choice if not that? In my mind they did what made the most sense. I personally am thrilled to see Cat and Yamaha combine as I believe this is preferable to the other option which may have been Yamaha dropping the sled line all together.

Of course just my opinion your mileage may vary.

 

[SXViper]

I found I needed to go back through this thread and disregard all the posts from the Polaris guys. You Poo guys do know your icon next to your name gives you away? Makes me want to go to the Poo forum and point out I have 5 Yamaha sleds to include two that are boosted and I DONT WORK ON THEM!!!!! well except for the third party boosted stuff.....

Calm down there. Just because we currently ride a particular brand does not mean we are ignorant to what evolves in the rest of the industry. Everything I have owned has been Blue up until my XP in 09. From my perspective they are making it hard on their dealer network. I've watched 3 Yamaha dealers go under in one of the riding areas we frequent. I also have friends who operate and work at a Yamaha dealer in the mid-west. I would love to be able to see them role sleds out the door one after another. It sucks that they have to sit on 3 year old stuff. All manufactures need to push one anther because in the end the customer wins. A current example: The best thing to happen to the XP was the Pro because now we have the XM.

PS: my Pro is turbo'd too, and I don't have to work on it either.

 

[av8er]

sad thing is they got the pro-climb chassis but didn't get the 2.6" powerclaw

there will be a 2015 Viper MTX 162"

 

[knifedge]

there will be a 2015 Viper MTX 162"

--the 2.6 PowerClaw and the turbo will come in the same year

 

[ak]

--the 2.6 PowerClaw and the turbo will come in the same year

If they do I might buy one.!!!!!!

 

[89sandman]

is it hard to get excited paying an 800 price for 600 class sled? maybe they figure the price by the pound

 

[BigFish BC]

I thought they just put their motor into a proven chassis with the procross chassis. Cat might have had some clutching issues, but their chassis has been awesome the last two years. Even if all they do is add their motor to the ProClimb chassis next year, it will still be leaps and bounds ahead of the nytro chassis for ease of handling in the trees. Either way, for them to really take a step forward they needs something that will excite people from the box, which means at least a 180hp + stock form 4strk or something more light weight.

Either way, it can't be a bad thing for the snowmobile community to have two strong brands like Arctic Cat and Yamaha together. So before we @$#%-ing lose it on them, lets wait and see what they have to show us and stop whinning like a bunch of spoiled kids who didnt get what they wanted for Christmas. I swear to god, if they come out with something amazing next year, Im making a thread of all you whinners and posting everything you said on here just to prove you're all ungrateful @$$-holes.

me personally think all yammi mountain guys have a bitch,most are diehards that have stuck it out being told for how many years now that next year its coming.iam a yammi diehard & love my nitro, but i had to put money into it but i enjoy that & can afford it so i do.if i could not afford it i would be riding something else & would not be happy.just sad to see a company that should be leading the pack lagging behind like they dont give a crap hoping we will just keep buying a half a$$ together mtn sled.well i hate to say it but it has backfired on them they have lost so many mtn customers now they have almost no market share.i hope this all works out for yammi or i guess i will be riding a turbo poo.

 

[allied1]

Ditching the 2012 Switchback ProR. Just snow checked a Viper XTX. What's the worst that could happen?

 

[christopher]

well i hate to say it but it has backfired on them they have lost so many mtn customers now they have almost no market share..

They have taken their losses, no argument,.

BUT...

When Yamaha sets their sites on a goal, there is damn little that will stand in their way of obtaining it.

Problem has been that the Mountain Segment HAS NOT been on their map for years now!

What we can hope is that maybe, JUST MAYBE, that will begin to change over the course of the next few years at long last...

If Yamaha Motorsports Corporation SERIOUSLY wanted to DOMINATE the snowmobiling market or just take on the Mountain Segment, given their VAST international engineering & design expertise, financial power and overall corporate depth, do you really think there is ANYTHING out there that could stop them.??

What we need are some senior corporate executives with a FIRE IN THEIR BELLY and a deep and abiding PASSION for sledding to bring this company division back as a serious competitor in the marketplace.

 

[yammi4ever]

Ditching the 2012 Switchback ProR. Just snow checked a Viper XTX. What's the worst that could happen?

Can you really order one already? What incentives. Not interested unless they put the cheap boost option on the table though.

 

[BigFish BC]

They have taken their losses, no argument,.

BUT...

When Yamaha sets their sites on a goal, there is damn little that will stand in their way of obtaining it.

Problem has been that the Mountain Segment HAS NOT been on their map for years now!

What we can hope is that maybe, JUST MAYBE, that will begin to change over the course of the next few years at long last...

If Yamaha Motorsports Corporation SERIOUSLY wanted to DOMINATE the snowmobiling market or just take on the Mountain Segment, given their VAST international engineering & design expertise, financial power and overall corporate depth, do you really think there is ANYTHING out there that could stop them.??

What we need are some senior corporate executives with a FIRE IN THEIR BELLY and a deep and abiding PASSION for sledding to bring this company division back as a serious competitor in the marketplace.

i 100% agree with you if these decision were made in north america i dont think they would be 4th in market share. but i think there is to much corporate yammi making the decisions & that has got them where they are.i love my nytro but most guys cant afford to put 15g into a sled after they paid 10gs like i did,iam a hp freak not a light weight freak but thats just me.

 

[BOOSTD]

The Fire in their belly you speak of needs to come from wade west, rob powers. However, they are trail riders and know little to nothing about mountain segments and honestly I dont feel they give a damn. No offense to them but I just dont see their urgency in developing the mountain segment or it would have been done already. I hope they have something coming forward for 2015, its only 7 years too late, or in that case late since 2003.
With that said, I think the new chassis is great and cant wait to get my hands on one. I think its a great step and look forward to the possibilities it will bring us. Slap a longer track and turbo on it and away we go, im sure we can make it a great sled. Like any sled, I or my friends own they all take some money to make right in my eyes. Even if I had a m1100t I would still throw money at it to make it right for me so starting with a srviper is just fine with me. I think the "powers" to be at yamaha snowmobile need to take a deeper look at whats really going on in all its markets and I hope they are. We are last in all segments not just mountain. Trail class, work, mtn, and crossover, all bottom in sales across the country and regionally. If thats not a wake up call I dont know what is. Its just like in sports, if your not good enough to play you sit on the bench, are these guys delivering whats good enough or should they be on the bench and get some new talent.
I look forward to whats coming, which seems like the story every year although I think we are finally moving in the right direction. It did take another manufacturer to get it done but at least it came from somehwere and thats better than nothing. Again, I cant wait to finally be on a good chassis, its been a long time coming.