UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

[Leaf27]

You may not have a clue what happened on Boulder that day, but there are many on here that were there or had close friends there. These people have a pretty good idea as to the chain of events that happened that day, but apparently you don't!!

As for attacking you...this is a forum and everyone's comment is open for debate...if you can't take the heat for the opinions you have shared...maybe you should keep them to yourself. Red repping people cause they call you out on your comments - when you truely don't have the slightest idea as to what happened on Boulder that day....TOUCHE!!!

Enlighten us then Kevin. I never once said I knew what happened. I am totally nuetral on this, just trying to figure out why this person would sue.

As for the red repping what a joke, I have had about 20 red reps from people like you that don't like opinions and stalk all over this forum and red rep me on old threads. I don't give a sheet if you red me Kevin (10 today from you) who cares, not going to stalk you like you do with me. Means nothing. Get over it, grow up. Douch!!!!

 

[Oregongirl]

I feel for the trauma this man has faced, that of his own and of his son, however claiming ignorance to the internet postings, to the website warnings, to the signage at the trailhead etc has got to be put to rest.

If your traveling in the backcountry - know how. It's pretty simple actually....know how.
If you get behind the wheel of a car, do you know the rules of the road? Do you know how to avoid a collision? DO you know the risks? Hell - Do you know how to drive!?!?!?

I don't understand people thinking what we do is childs play - the more you know about the backcountry, the more serious it gets. Plain and simple.

1) Lawsuits do not belong in the backcountry.

2) This gentleman may only be suing because of pressure from insurance co and/or lawyers. Who knows how what is happening in his world since the accident. (Accident being the key word...IMO).

3) Have you ever recommended to a group of snowmobilers that their decisions are risky...i.e. "you should stay off that hill", "hey, maybe you guys need to move out of the runout zone", etc. Ya, right!! They will not listen to you. Sometime even trying to lobby your fellow riding partners for a better decision is a challenge. (Sad, but true!)

4) We no longer ride with our kids in the backcountry. It's too risky. And, I know....they could get hit by a truck crossing the street (and, oh yeah....that DID happen to my nephew)....but for us, for me, the risk is not acceptable. I know that my child could become injured or die at any moment, doing anything, but I'd just prefer to not have to question MY CHOICES as a parent, if/when that sort of thing happens.

5) People who participate in high risk activities should not be allowed to file suit against an organization or individuals for injuries. This gentlemen was NOT attending a motorcross race at a track, as a spectator - HE WAS TRAVELING IN THE BACKCOUNTRY - IN THE WINTER - UNDER A HIGH AVY FORECAST. There should be no recourse for compensation for injuries or death related to winter backcountry travel. If that seems unreasonable to you, then stay the heck out of the backcountry!

 

[GettnUnstuck]

We will have to see what the outcome is. I just hope that this is not some lawyer taking advantage of an injured man and making bull**** promises to him just to make a buck.

x2!

 

[hatchers]

Pretty harsh Hatchers...........

Frankly none of you know precisely how you would react if your life was severely altered because of this event.

There are many circumstances that are not known to any of us. It is real easy to sit back and say "Well, that is completely wrong, that is just stupid, he knew the dangers,,,,,,, blah, blah, blah"

In the end, the set of circumstances that brought this lawsuit, might be found actionable.

Lets see how this plays out, and what the meat of the suit is actually. You might change your mind once you hear it........

Frankly, If I was the widower or had to deal with the life changing injuries, caused by negligence, you f'in bet I would sue.
A: I would want to get dollars to try and attempt to help put my life back together
B: Make sure nobody else has to go through this again

This whole suit hinges on the word negligence

I am no lawyer, but this whole tragedy screams negligence........

Go ahead flame away, but what if that was YOUR son, daughter, wife, husband that had either lost their life, or had life altering injuries, because of negligence of others......................... YOU juuust might think differently.......

Lets see what the negligence was or was not.........

it takes far too many words for you say "nothing"

all you did was say the same chit as your dance partner crfred

 

[HighMark Adventures]

Well I must say the local rag accomplished what it probably set out to do. Like all news outlets they post news without all the information knowing full well it would start this heated debate. **** I hate the news.
I wonder how this would have played out if the paper would have said that lawyers actually contacted Mr.Mazzei because , next to the two men who died, he was the worst one injured in this accident and they feel he has a good case to sue. Wonder how it would have played out then?

I already stated my feelings on the subject earlier so won`t go there again. But being co founder of the BigDawg Shootout, Paul and myself were loaded for Revy to participate but at the last minute changed our minds and took our kids to Penticton to race the Arenacross instead. We did not want to risk the high avy conditions. Like I already said my mom who lives back in Eastern Canada knew how bad the avy conditions were from watching national news sources.

One fact we do know, unless you are deaf, dumb and blind, there is no way you could not have known about the high avy danger present in the back country on this day.

 

[Jeff C]

it takes far too many words for you say "nothing"

all you did was say the same chit as your dance partner crfred

Well, Hatchers unlike you (Attaching some lame youtube video), I actually took the time to write,,,,,,,,,, and left out the meaningless one sentence snipe you left to CRFfred.......

Pretty sure, if you could actually comprehend written english, there was more accomplished with the post than "saythe same chit" as.............

Snipe on troll man..........

 

[Hrt Offroad]

Enlighten us then Kevin. I never once said I knew what happened. I am totally nuetral on this, just trying to figure out why this person would sue.

As for the red repping what a joke, I have had about 20 red reps from people like you that don't like opinions and stalk all over this forum and red rep me on old threads. I don't give a sheet if you red me Kevin (10 today from you) who cares, not going to stalk you like you do with me. Means nothing. Get over it, grow up. Douch!!!!

Speaking of Douche...you may like to take a look in the mirror!! What the point here is...is that you keep saying that everyone is making assumptions without knowing what really even happened. FACT...there are quite a few on here that do know what happened and were present when all the chit went down...so please don't assume that others are only making assumptions as to the chain of events that led to this tragedy. It was an accident and no one had intent to injure anybody. For those who sat in the path of destruction: they knew that their actions contributed to their fate and injuries and take responsibility for that, so what gives this one guy the right to sue because he like many others didn't use a good sense of judgement that day. Not to mention that he put his son in harms way too!! I'm not trying to start a chit slinging match here, but as many wish they would have done that day at Boulder...think before you act, speak or type!!!

 

[Jeff C]

I think this thread has run its course........

Therefore I am locking this thread from further posts......

 

[Leaf27]

I feel for everyone that was involved..was a very tragic event.

 

[diamonddave]

I keep seeing people saying that maybe this is the insurance company suing which I don't believe is the case here. Can a Canadian please explain since you guys have government provided health care how this works? Does or has this ever happened before where the gov't sues an individual for health care costs (which I am sure are substantial in a case like this) if they feel someone is responsible for an injury?

 

[tudizzle]

NO.....let ME tell YOU what is happening in this situation which I really have no first hand knowledge of.....but trust you me I know exactly what is happening when I decide what I know is best regardless of my stance and complete lack of knowledge or any firsthand experience.

And how dare you not exactly agree with my conclusion...can't you see as clearly as me that I am surely right!??!

 

[PJ-Hunter]

What if the coffee was so hot that it melted the cup?

Drink up Ruffy, drink it up.

Off topic but read the details on that McDonalds coffee spill. They should have been sued. The plaintiff in that case asked for tf medical damages only originally, half of which would go back to medicaid to repay them. McDonalds had several other people suffer burns as well and served their coffee at 170 degrees when industry standard was 120.

Back to topic. When you attend an event as a spectator you generally assume there are no risks. You go to a car race, you expect to not be ran over. You go to a monster truck rally and expect to no have a truck in the stands.

Sorry but this guy has a valid claim.


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The fact that you know that means you need to make better use of your time. Also not a valid claim. He was sitting in a runout zone, he shoulda known that, shouldn't even be allowed to ride a sled if you don't understand avalanche dangers, cause sooner or later you will die. The event was over from what I understand.

It's a sad deal that he and his son got injured. But the family that is getting sued have already paid the ULTIMATE price. A LOVED ONE DIED!!!!!! That, IMO is even more sad. The fact that he is suing that family (they didn't even trigger the slide) is morally disgusting. I agree 100% with Mafesto on this. The man suing is an opportunist, plain and simple. Karma is a b*tch and he will get his one day.

NO.....let ME tell YOU what is happening in this situation which I really have no first hand knowledge of.....but trust you me I know exactly what is happening when I decide what I know is best regardless of my stance and complete lack of knowledge or any firsthand experience.

And how dare you not exactly agree with my conclusion...can't you see as clearly as me that I am surely right!??!

good point.

 

[M-niner]

As far as the deceased members estate, most estates can be closed out in as little as 4 months (ie taxes, debts, etc payed out) This protects the surviving members from debts and lawsuits coming months or even years after the death. If this is allowed to go to court against the deceased members estate, and is proved to be unfounded, I hope there is a countersuit filed to pay for all legal costs of the deceased members estate.

Another article from the "Globe and Mail"

A mother’s worst nightmare come true
Gary Mason

Last updated Tuesday, Apr. 06, 2010 2:22PM EDT

A- A+ When Sharlotte Skowronek picked up the phone, she braced for more bad news. Was it the hospital calling to tell her that her husband, Joey, had died from injuries suffered in the avalanche? It wasn’t. It was an investigator from the major crime division of the Kelowna RCMP. He asked Ms. Skowronek how her husband was doing. But he mostly wanted to talk about something else: child endangerment.

“What I picked up from the conversation was they are considering charging parents who took their kids to the event with endangering their child,” Ms. Skowronek said this week.


“He wanted to know how I would feel about child endangerment charges if my husband survives.” And she said they wanted to let her know that the co-ordinators of the snowmobile event may face charges of criminal negligence causing bodily harm.

The inspector also said police would want to interview the couple’s seven-year-old son, Joey Jr., who was on Boulder Mountain with his dad when the avalanche struck. Police have not yet determined how many children were among the estimated 200 people who came to Revelstoke last Saturday to watch snowmobiling daredevils traverse high up the mountain as part of a loosely structured event called the Big Iron Shootout.

RCMP Corporal Dan Moskaluk confirmed in an interview that “all aspects of this event are being investigated, and one of those aspects is parents bringing their children.

“As an adult, we are responsible for ourselves, but then, as well at times, child protection and child care does become an issue for governing bodies to ensure that children are safe,” he said.

Cpl. Moskaluk confirmed that investigators would likely want to talk to children who were there when a pair of snowmobilers racing up the mountain triggered the slide. The risk of avalanche in the area was rated high at the time.

“Everything is on the table, and that would include provincial legislation that applies,” he said. “And seeing that we have information about children being there, it’s conceivable and safe to say that we would be looking at [any laws or statutes] that apply to that as well.”

A spokesperson for the Ministry of Children and Family Development declined to comment until police finish the investigation, as did a spokesperson for the Crown Counsel’s office.

Sharlotte Skowronek, meantime, doesn’t quite know what to think. She is still shaken by the events of last week. Her husband, Joey Mazzei, is in critical condition at Kelowna General Hospital with severe injuries that include a collapsed lung, brain damage, broken vertebrae and massive bleeding in his stomach.

Joey Jr. is at home after being released late this week from hospital in Revelstoke. His injuries included cracked ribs, lung damage and an ugly gash to the head.

A week after the event, Ms. Skowronek’s voice still trembles when she talks about it. She understands the RCMP’s concerns about the children who were at Boulder Mountain when the avalanche struck because she has the same concerns herself. She has questions, too.

Right now, her husband is in no condition to answer them. In her heart, she said, she wants to believe he would never have taken their son to the Big Iron Shootout knowing that the risk of avalanche in the area was high.

“His last words to me were ‘Look, if there’s any chance of avalanches, the Shootout won’t be going. It will be cancelled.’ Because I was worried,” she said. “Revelstoke is known for avalanches. There’s people killed every winter there by avalanches. But I just can’t believe my husband would have taken our son up there knowing the risk was extremely high. I just can’t believe it.”