P85 onto 9R

[Jreng87]

Long story short, I have a P85 I’d like to put on my 9R. I know I’ll add the adjust bolt to the secondary in this swap. But is there anything else? Same clutch bolt, torque, etc… and I know I’ll have to figure out my weights as the 10-series is totally different the the new P22 weights.

 

[chevy_man]

Long story short, I have a P85 I’d like to put on my 9R. I know I’ll add the adjust bolt to the secondary in this swap. But is there anything else? Same clutch bolt, torque, etc… and I know I’ll have to figure out my weights as the 10-series is totally different the the new P22 weights.

I believe 99% of the guys were going to TRS for his clutch kit.

You'll want to get the secondary balanced with the adjuster. And you'll need the clutch bolt for a p85.

 

[TRS]

No need to balance the secondary as per TJ.
Just add the deflection bolt and nut. They do come with our clutch kit. Full description below.
A full kit consists of:
TRS helix
TRS weights
TRS alignment bar
Primary spring
Secondary spring
Secondary replacement rollers(‘21+)
Spider shims
Jackshaft shims
Comet weight shims
Secondary retaining bolt shims
Delrin washer
T27 L wrench
You will need these parts as well.

 

[armey37]

Long story short, I have a P85 I’d like to put on my 9R. I know I’ll add the adjust bolt to the secondary in this swap. But is there anything else? Same clutch bolt, torque, etc… and I know I’ll have to figure out my weights as the 10-series is totally different the the new P22 weights.

Run Trs clutch kit on your 9r with your p85. Awesome combo.

 

[carbontj]

We have done many P85 combos for 9R with Tony TRS...everyone has called and say they love it...I do stock P85 clutch bolts....tonys list is complete...

 

[madmax]

I did the TRS p-85 kit on my 9R and had the Patrick balance and lightening treatment. Sleds runs very strong. Make sure you do the clutch alignment as well, these sleds are usually pretty far off from the factory.

 

[rmk800ak]

Just got my clutches back from TJ and they are top notch as always . P85, TRS with TJ’s treatment is a great setup. Have them on both my boost and 9r


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[law.74]

Why are people running a p85in lieu of the p22 post recall?

 

[shattuck]

Why are people running a p85in lieu of the p22 post recall?

P-85 is a more proven clutch and after TJ and TRS work their magic the bottom end performs much better. Some P-85s on 9Rs do struggle to reach peak rpms. On my 9R I’m still trying to get 8400. The boost P-85 TRS setup is incredible.
Anyone else had trouble getting the 9R to pull 8400 and if so what did you do?

 

[carbontj]

Why are people running a p85in lieu of the p22 post recall?

the P22 weight location is higher start rate than the P85 which means it takes off in second gear...Thus less bottom end....the reason is the roller to eliminate the need for belt defection is larger diameter, so there weights on the P22 are shorter and the tip is angles on top to make clearance as well...this caused less squeeze on the sheaves at full throttle...Every P22 I do ,and if you doubt me look at yours, the sheaves are Black with belt slip...less squeeze!!! the P22 has softer material as well causing some of this...the life span of the P22 is very short, seen them junk in 400 miles!!! did one this week with 800 miles and I could not balance it properly as it was a rattle box...every bushing and spider buttons gone...even weight bushings...there are many other issues I would get into...I understand the need for the P22 with the high HP sleds using 70s gram weights...they just need to change the design...Let alone the clutch issue of falling off...if you have any other question PM me...

 

[law.74]

Thanks for the replies!

 

[shattuck]

P-85 is a more proven clutch and after TJ and TRS work their magic the bottom end performs much better. Some P-85s on 9Rs do struggle to reach peak rpms. On my 9R I’m still trying to get 8400. The boost P-85 TRS setup is incredible.
Anyone else had trouble getting the 9R to pull 8400 and if so what did you do?

Turns out my issue has nothing to do with clutching put the P-22 setup back on and sled does the same thing the sled won't hold RPM. Probably a bad sensor somewhere.

 

[MTsled3]

Has anyone done the p85 swap on an electric start sled? Ring gear the same?

I had my p22 apart for the first time yesterday and couldn't believe the wear on it at 500 miles. everything seemed very loose and sloppy. Also broke a head cover bolt while LOOSENING it, and another when torqueing (100 in.-lbs is correct, right? ). I'm thinking the dealer probably over torqued them when the recall was done for the spider last year.

 

[Ultrasauras]

I got warranty on my 9r clutch because of a broken cover bolt. Seemed like it was cross threaded from new

 

[Tjtwenty]

Has anyone done the p85 swap on an electric start sled? Ring gear the same?

I had my p22 apart for the first time yesterday and couldn't believe the wear on it at 500 miles. everything seemed very loose and sloppy. Also broke a head cover bolt while LOOSENING it, and another when torqueing (100 in.-lbs is correct, right? ). I'm thinking the dealer probably over torqued them when the recall was done for the spider last year.

I have a p85 on my electric start boost. The electric start and pull start p85s are different part numbers. Not able to install a starter ring to a pull start p85 clutch. My starter ring looks fine on my 23 boost

 

[MTsled3]

I have a p85 on my electric start boost. The electric start and pull start p85s are different part numbers. Not able to install a starter ring to a pull start p85 clutch. My starter ring looks fine on my 23 boost

Perfect, thanks! Yeah I was going to buy one for an electric start 850, just wanted to make sure it worked.

 

[diamonddave]

Secondary after 2 rides with a P-22. I’ve never seen anything like this. Chilly says run it.

 

[carbontj]

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Secondary after 2 rides with a P-22. I’ve never seen anything like this. Chilly says run it.

My guess it is out of balance, and the P22 has black belt markings too I bet.....Looks at this pictures at, lets say 1:00, and see the THICKER webbing counter balance built into this TSS-04 secondary OPOSITE of the defection bolt Polaris removed for any P22 clutching....I RE-install 80% of the TSS-04 clutches we balance , so I can balance them!!!! most are close to 80-100 lbs out of balance at 8000 RPM, with out the defection bolt....If I was any good with Instagram I would post many pictures I have with balance sheets...

 

[Pickin’ Boogers]

I believe the ’25 sleds with the p22 are now shipping with the deflection bolt

 

[Json]

^^^ Not mine.