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Non- sled friendly places in McCall

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FlyZ28

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Being that the economy sucks lately, it seems that some businesses that usually have attitudes towards certain groups have lightened up to salvage any customers they can.
In another post in the Idaho sections, a few sled- friendly businesses were listed. Does anyone know of any businesses in McCall that have not been sled- friendly?
A large group of us go for a week each year and I want to make sure I don't support those businesses. I'm looking for factual answers, not opinions of a place just because you may have dealt with a person having a bad day!
Thanks......... Bob
 
non-sled friendly?

I like your idea and will ask around. Not trying to sidestep your request but most all of the business' in town are on our side. One that is super "friendly" is the Pancake House, (one of many friendlys), we even have our club meetings there.

We have a program called "adopt-a-trail", where local business's buy an advertizing sign that is put up on the trail north of town and all the money is put into the grooming fund. Please use these merchants as they are the ones REALLY supporting the sledding program here. Please go to our web site, with the listing of local supporting merchants and individuals, (will need updated this fall). http://www.snowmobilemccall.net/adopt-a-trail.html

Think snow.

Spud.
 
It's good to hear that most are not opposed to sleds. Thanks for the heads up about your site, we'll check it out.
That pancake house rules! We usually eat there a few times that week. The serving sizes are huge, actually too big for one person. Sometimes we split a meal and just double up on the tip or something. The service is good, too. And the bonus is they have room for groups of 8 - 10 people.

Idaspud, I was there a few weeks ago to explore the area in summer on dual sport bikes. I was very impressed with the trail systems. Not only were there many miles open for motorized use, but the ones we rode were in excellent shape. Just wondering who works on the trails? I'd like to support them in some way.
Also a note.... We came across a group of mtn. bikers on the loon lake trail. They were surprisingly fun to BS and joke around with. Quite a different attitude than what I have found here in Washington. Not to stereotype all groups/ areas, but it was a situation worth noting.
I love Idaho!!


oh yeah....... I did feel very out of place, though, when my buddy and I checked out some live music at some local cafe one night. The band (Equaleyes) and beer garden were outside. The crowd was definately hippyish from my perspective. The band was really good and had an ok time, but just felt out of my element with the way I was dressed/ they were dressed.
 
Both http://www.bearcreeklodgemccall.com/winter.html and http://www.meadowoodlodge.com/ have been at the snow show in Boise.

They promised they were 100% friendly to sledders. Their also the only lodge I know of you can sled out of. Both of them cater to sledders and skiers.

There is a reservation system in McCall that's doesn't like sledders. I think they were associated with Brundage. I haven't checked recently, to see if Brundage is still a angry bunch.

I know that http://www.whitetailclub.com/developer/ also called the Shore Lodge is friendly to sledders. The owner/developer is a sledder.
 
Trails?

Bob, Wade is correct about the 3 lodges. I thought about mentioning them too but the list can get very long. I think the summer trails maintenance is done by the FS in their jurisdiction. I am attending a "Recreation Committee" meeting on Tuesday with them and will ask that question and pass along the compliment too. We need those, especially the ones on the grooming that I am sometimes involved with.

We have befriended some sledders from Washington this last few years and they ride around with us when they come over. I know you have been here before but if you are looking for someone to point out some good riding areas or tag along, and depending on your riding interests, ie; your expertise, let me know,(PM). I have been riding here for about 25 years now and I still find new spots every year. The sleds we have now can go way further into the back country and there is some fantastic back country here. Then again the trails are great too.

Spud
 
Wade is right Brundage. But last year they did invite all the snowmobilers to use the lodge. I think they want sales up. I dont know anyone that went there. I would never spend money at the ski hill. The one good thing about Brundage is the medics.
 
Flyz28 ride back to Warren they are open just for riders. Its a bar and grill about 27 miles(guess) back on a trail. Others please chime in.
 
Warren

Thanks Rev800........ Usually one or 2 days we ride the Wagon Rd area and take the ladies to Burgdorf and sometimes ( depending on fuel left), we ride out to Warren. I've actually only been to Warren only once myself, but had a great time BSing with the bartender and checking out all the cool stuff in there. That whole area has some great history to it.

PMed you Spud! :beer;
 
Donnelly

Hey, just curious.........

My buddy and I took our motorcycles to the Donnelly snowpark a few weeks ago ( the one just across the lake and north at the "T" in the road). I noticed the were digging up the road and it looked like they aim to build a bunch of houses right before the gravel road up to No Business Mtn.
I'm guessing it's just a matter of time before that area will be shut down, huh?:(
 
vouching for the meadowood lodge as being sled friendly. rode with the owner for a day actually. very nice guy and full of information on riding areas in mccall.
 
I can speak a little bit about Donnelly... the local businesses are very busy with snowmobiles and there is a big club that supports the trail systems. As far as the trail head to No Business... the local Donnelly snowmobile club spent a lot of money on a warming hut and groomer shed about three years ago, so I don't see many changes concerning sledding out of that area. I know they plan on building more homes in there but we'll have to see.
 
I haven't made it to mccall in a few years. Is darrel still around. That guy has taken me on some great boondocking rides? How about gordon titus? Both guys where fun to ride with.

tim
 
Accomodation services is owned by deboer, who continues to try to close the brundage area to snowmobilers.

When I was up there The McCall chamber of commerce gave over 85 percent of their Idaho Tourism Council moneys (state funds) to DeBoer owned businesses limited to Accomodation services and Brundage Mountain. The Brundage ads are all paid mostly by tax dollars, siphoned through the Chamber of Commerce. I understand that still continues. It is so obnoxious, there is a "Payette Mountains Tourism Council" or some such which takes mccall moneys and spreads it around to other areas so it can be spent on non-Brundage activities.

The managers at Burgdorf hates sledders, ***** about trail maintenance, and are famous for driving their cars on groomed trails.

May hardware is owned by people who imposed the boating limits on Payette Lake.

The Evans Hardware store in Eagle, is owned by DeBoer.


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Cheap thrills is by far the largest business supporter of sledders in the entire area. They give the most money, they give the most support, they give the most time. Obviously they have the highest vested interest, but they for sure pay their fair share, plus a bunch.

The owners of the Winter Inn in Warren love sledders.

The old Tamarack Resort actually supported snowmobiling surprisingly well. Sure they wanted land, sure they made some mistakes, but they never broke their word, and they tried hard to get along with sledders and to make money off of sledders the old fashioned way - by providing good service.

The owners of the Pancake house and Vigilantes support sledders.

Hinson's of course supports sleds.

The manager at Bruneel Tire does a LOT for sledders up there.

The owners of Krahn's donate a LOT of time and energy to the program.

Lardos supports sledders.

All of the gas stations like sledders for obvious reasons, but Jim's Grocery has probably done the most to quietly support sledders. His is the first store on the right kind of near the Pancake House.

I believe all hotels are now owned by Bob Hunt a true believer in tourists no matter their background. For sure he likes sledders.

The Shorelodge is owned by people who STAUNCHLY fight for snowmobile rights. Prices have come way down, service is way up, and they TOTALLY WELCOME snowmobilers.

Blackhawk is owned by folks who want tourists, and have helped snowmobilers and skiers alike. A neat area to have a cabin also as you can ride from your cabin.

There is a restaurant at the skating rink who has donated stuff to the program. Good food too, fairly cheap.
 
I haven't made it to mccall in a few years. Is darrel still around. That guy has taken me on some great boondocking rides? How about gordon titus? Both guys where fun to ride with.

tim

Gordon passed away a couple of years ago.

The really cool parking lot up by Brundage has been renamed for him.
 
I think the summer trails maintenance is done by the FS in their jurisdiction. I

Spud

Snowmobile trails maintenance is performed by local volunteers.

In other areas, the local snowmobile clubs do summer maintenance and maintain trail signs.

The really great motorcycle trails are paid for and maintained by Idaho Department of Parks and Recreation, paid for by your motorcycle sticker moneys and the Gas Tax which we have now lost.
 
Thanks for the info on Gordon. He was a very good man.

Dan Krahn of Krahns Home Furnishings definalty supports the town of McCall.
He is also a good guy, that i haven't talked to in awhile.

tim
 
Thanks for the info on Gordon. He was a very good man.

Dan Krahn of Krahns Home Furnishings definalty supports the town of McCall.
He is also a good guy, that i haven't talked to in awhile.

tim

Definately. The whole family actually donates a lot of time to the entire area, including sledding.
Very quality people, as many in McCall are.
 
I haven't made it to mccall in a few years. Is darrel still around. That guy has taken me on some great boondocking rides? How about gordon titus? Both guys where fun to ride with.

tim

Darrel is still down their, he was waiting for all the riders to get across the avy zone last winter, in a bad white out storm. He is a heck of a nice guy, and a good rider at that.
 
Lost Gas Tax

My understanding is that the gas tax "take away" has been put off until July of 2011. Or 7/11. And that a lot of the legislators who voted for the take away in the first place are now being educated and they will support the repeal of this obscene rip off of these funds. We must keep the pressure on them to repeal this law of keeping the gas tax paid for by "off road" machines". The Idaho Dept. of Parks and Recreation is the main recipient and they use the funds to build trails, maintain them, support the grooming program with new groomers, public docks, restrooms, parking lots, etc.

All of these were paid for by the tax on non road burned fuel taxes since as long ago as 1973. It really honks me off that they would do that. Check out who voted for this and then let's vote in some new representatives. Talk about non-supporters of the snowmobile and off road industries? They all work in the Idaho State House.

Spud
 
I will just add this, The winter travel plan will not change for this winter. So this year is the same as last. What has kind of put a slow down on the travel plan was the fact the Snowmobilers questioned the Wolverine issue and how it could effect closures. We have inspired a study conducted by the foremost expert on the Wolverine, the guy heading the study totaly non bias. Please understand if the study shows displacement of the animal by recreation then both snowmobilers and skiers will be shut out. I have a feeling that they will be a non issue and areas slated for closure will have to remain open. I HOPE!!!!
 
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