In my opinion, the old saying holds true, as mentioned, you get what you pay for.
we both are on the same page here.
With that being said, that push kit sounds nice. But in reality, I wouldn't be the one risking a sledding season in HOPES that it worked as advertised.
For the Xxx time, there is no rocket science in puting a turbo kit together,some uses better materials then others, but at the end, it all comes back to the precision in wich you control you air/fuel mixture,charging temp, spark ignition(also called timing),injection timing,dwell time of the capacitors,and most of all compensations( altitude,air intake temps,pipe temp etc..) , plus you need to have good failsafe programing in case something go wrong.
That vipec box controls everything, every last function your sled has, from handwarmers to injectors.
yep.
There's an awful lot riding on that vipec box performing at 100%. It sounds too good to be true in my opinion.
it is only as good as the programing in the computer and that is where we are focusing with our dealers right now, taking them to the next level. If your programing is top notch,then your sled will perform 100%......but if your exhaust seal(donut) is leaking, if your spark plug are done,if your charge tube is loose, if your magneto is going bad, if your reeds are chipping off etc...then your sled won't perform as good, right? the ECU is not a Miracle and will not cure hardware problems(and god knows how many are showing up!), but it is stabilizing all parameters in the E.F.I. equation if programmed right.
They keep defending their product, which is fine, so would I, but you can tell me that you've had 1000000000000 hours on snow testing if you want, doesn't change anything.
We are far from 1000000000000 hours !! but can honestly say we have more than 2000 hours easy on the ECU(with turbo kit and N/A )
It's the real world, us riders, that I want feedback from, not guys making a sales push
there is some available already on here, just check a bit.....more to come this year since we have already pushed out the door 250 ECU already and it is mid november.
There's only one video I know of with that new proclimb push kit. Doesn't do it enough justice for me to want to dump that kind of money down on it.
check in the polaris turbo section tomorrow, some russian(realbass) guy are already riding the push (tbbt ) kit, they wrote to me yesterday, check tomorrow(or tonight) into that section for actual riders feedback.
as for the arctic cat push turbo kit (tbbt), we have one in the shop right now and it is working absolutely as good as his polaris kit, craftmanship on this kit is phenomenal.(him and hm turbo being the best craftmanship in the industry from what i have seen so far....)
I'm not trying to bash anyone or their product, but I would want to go with something, being your first turbo, that's been tested and proven by real riders.
i have to consider myself, ken hunter(push turbo),shane hart and levi(hm turbos),Jake stewart(mildtowild),cody philips(cody philips racing),bryce kendrick and josh(turbo performance) and the more than 300 ECU buyers so far , real riders .
just wanted to reply to your comments and not to hi-jack so let'go ....
In my opinion, the old saying holds true, as mentioned, you get what you pay for.
we both are on the same page here.
With that being said, that push kit sounds nice. But in reality, I wouldn't be the one risking a sledding season in HOPES that it worked as advertised.
For the Xxx time, there is no rocket science in puting a turbo kit together,some uses better materials then others, but at the end, it all comes back to the precision in wich you control you air/fuel mixture,charging temp, spark ignition(also called timing),injection timing,dwell time of the capacitors,and most of all compensations( altitude,air intake temps,pipe temp etc..) , plus you need to have good failsafe programing in case something go wrong.
That vipec box controls everything, every last function your sled has, from handwarmers to injectors.
yep.
There's an awful lot riding on that vipec box performing at 100%. It sounds too good to be true in my opinion.
it is only as good as the programing in the computer and that is where we are focusing with our dealers right now, taking them to the next level. If your programing is top notch,then your sled will perform 100%......but if your exhaust seal(donut) is leaking, if your spark plug are done,if your charge tube is loose, if your magneto is going bad, if your reeds are chipping off etc...then your sled won't perform as good, right? the ECU is not a Miracle and will not cure hardware problems(and god knows how many are showing up!), but it is stabilizing all parameters in the E.F.I. equation if programmed right.
They keep defending their product, which is fine, so would I, but you can tell me that you've had 1000000000000 hours on snow testing if you want, doesn't change anything.
We are far from 1000000000000 hours !! but can honestly say we have more than 2000 hours easy on the ECU(with turbo kit and N/A )
It's the real world, us riders, that I want feedback from, not guys making a sales push
there is some available already on here, just check a bit.....more to come this year since we have already pushed out the door 250 ECU already and it is mid november.
There's only one video I know of with that new proclimb push kit. Doesn't do it enough justice for me to want to dump that kind of money down on it.
check in the polaris turbo section tomorrow, some russian(realbass) guy are already riding the push (tbbt ) kit, they wrote to me yesterday
as for the arctic cat push turbo kit (tbbt), we have one in the shop right now and it is working absolutely as good as his polaris kit, craftmanship on this kit is phenomenal.(him and hm turbo being the best craftmanship in the industry from what i have seen so far....)
I'm not trying to bash anyone or their product, but I would want to go with something, being your first turbo, that's been tested and proven by real riders.
i have to consider myself, ken hunter(push turbo),shane hart and levi(hm turbos),Jake stewart(mildtowild),cody philips(cody philips racing),bryce kendrick and josh(turbo performance) and the more than 300 ECU buyers so far , real riders .
just wanted to reply to your comments and not to hi-jack so let'go ....
I call this BS.
Sold over 300 ecu's and we have 1 guy on snowest that is talking about them and posted feedback and videos?
I will sit back and watch as Gino goes into BABY mode and starts pouting over this one.
Lets here it Gino.
Twisted , ovs then bd in that order.
You dont want to start a pissing contest with junk peddlers..
suffice to say, the YUGO auto was a great deal for the money right ? so why on earth would ANY of you NOT have a fleet of YUGOS vs 1 single over priced american auto ??
When you sell your american overpriced auto and show up towing your knockoff kit with a Yugo I will support your opinion of the knock off det tripping towed in turbo kits.
Till then shut the **** up. Garrett is made overseas and passes 1000's of performance tests. over priced ? not even close. Kaizen auto is a huge import car turbo shop 500 feet from my doorstep. He has 31 videos of knockoff turbos not just exploding on the dyno but also not coming close on airflow and power. knock offs belong in the welfare section.
Like the 53 series being capable of performing like a 2871. NEVER.
66 series maybe almost equal to a 2863. not even close to a 76 comp.
Doing a cat for me soon,, NO question, TWISTED !!
In my opinion, the old saying holds true, as mentioned, you get what you pay for.
we both are on the same page here.
With that being said, that push kit sounds nice. But in reality, I wouldn't be the one risking a sledding season in HOPES that it worked as advertised.
For the Xxx time, there is no rocket science in puting a turbo kit together,some uses better materials then others, but at the end, it all comes back to the precision in wich you control you air/fuel mixture,charging temp, spark ignition(also called timing),injection timing,dwell time of the capacitors,and most of all compensations( altitude,air intake temps,pipe temp etc..) , plus you need to have good failsafe programing in case something go wrong.
That vipec box controls everything, every last function your sled has, from handwarmers to injectors.
yep.
There's an awful lot riding on that vipec box performing at 100%. It sounds too good to be true in my opinion.
it is only as good as the programing in the computer and that is where we are focusing with our dealers right now, taking them to the next level. If your programing is top notch,then your sled will perform 100%......but if your exhaust seal(donut) is leaking, if your spark plug are done,if your charge tube is loose, if your magneto is going bad, if your reeds are chipping off etc...then your sled won't perform as good, right? the ECU is not a Miracle and will not cure hardware problems(and god knows how many are showing up!), but it is stabilizing all parameters in the E.F.I. equation if programmed right.
They keep defending their product, which is fine, so would I, but you can tell me that you've had 1000000000000 hours on snow testing if you want, doesn't change anything.
We are far from 1000000000000 hours !! but can honestly say we have more than 2000 hours easy on the ECU(with turbo kit and N/A )
It's the real world, us riders, that I want feedback from, not guys making a sales push
there is some available already on here, just check a bit.....more to come this year since we have already pushed out the door 250 ECU already and it is mid november.
There's only one video I know of with that new proclimb push kit. Doesn't do it enough justice for me to want to dump that kind of money down on it.
check in the polaris turbo section tomorrow, some russian(realbass) guy are already riding the push (tbbt ) kit, they wrote to me yesterday
as for the arctic cat push turbo kit (tbbt), we have one in the shop right now and it is working absolutely as good as his polaris kit, craftmanship on this kit is phenomenal.(him and hm turbo being the best craftmanship in the industry from what i have seen so far....)
I'm not trying to bash anyone or their product, but I would want to go with something, being your first turbo, that's been tested and proven by real riders.
i have to consider myself, ken hunter(push turbo),shane hart and levi(hm turbos),Jake stewart(mildtowild),cody philips(cody philips racing),bryce kendrick and josh(turbo performance) and the more than 300 ECU buyers so far , real riders .
just wanted to reply to your comments and not to hi-jack so let'go ....
I call total BS on this. Push is all full of promises and no delivery. They were selling kits with all sorts of claims last year before they even had one assembled, let alone working. The kits were very incomplete with no solutions to many install problems. The components were high quality, but the R&D was not complete and zero on snow testing was done to back up claims, just "push" the product out the door and then let the customer sort it out.
I just came back for a sled show where I was talking to the push booth about the problems it had all year, and they basically said that the setup they sold me last year was untuneable with the PCV that was included, and are now trying to sell a new wonder box that they promise will fix everything. To be honest the pitch sounded very familiar to last years. "Buy our stuff its great, dont worry that it hasn't been run on the snow yet, just trust me its all tuned perfect, you wont need to touch a thing.
