I've got a clutch and weight that looks just like it. Clutch made it 2100 miles.
Inspect your rollers or this could be you.
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Holy chit. Check out the crack I just noticed in the pic I posted. Left side of the weight. I better start taking more pics for analyzing problems. Never would have noticed that.
Ron that looks like casting marks to me. It certainly could be a crack but compare it to the marks on the cover. They all look like cracks but are from the casting process.
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2010 HCR...Mine toasted at about 650 miles. I'm thinking it has to do with the outer sheave bushings wearing out too fast and causing a misalignment. You're lucky if all it does is take out the weight/ roller. Mine got replaced under warranty but when the warranty runs out you're left holding the bag on a the whole new clutch ($500) since you can't buy and replace just the spider any more.
weights ground out like this are almost always the result of harmonic vibrations from............? who knows, changing a clutch with no others changes to engine or chassis usually will result in another clutch weight ground out. I have seen this cured at times with better jetting, new engine mounts, replaced cranks, different spring and weight combinations in the clutch. Gota bad weight, always a good idea to put a dial indicator on the end of the crank and see how straight it is. A crank still within cat spec's wil do this to clutch's.
Cat doesn't make their clutch's. No excuse though,they come out of the same plant as several other clutch brands. Always the potential for something defective and I'm sure some sour clutch's have left the plant. But clutch's going to pot problems are almost always the result of other bigger issues. Not the news anyone wants to believe.
Cat doesn't make their clutch's. No excuse though,they come out of the same plant as several other clutch brands. Always the potential for something defective and I'm sure some sour clutch's have left the plant. But clutch's going to pot problems are almost always the result of other bigger issues. Not the news anyone wants to believe.
Spiders are stiil available. My new one is sitting on my bench.
Seems the roller washer on one side is gone. Common for these parts to wear on one side only since clutch spins the same direction all the time. I know on all my Polaris sleds washers and weight inserts were a seasonal repacement part. Only a matter of time before they go.
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was your primary getting stuck engaged? I am having the same issue, my primary wont disengage because the weight is getting caught up on the roller.
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Spider
Usually a broken Spider?
Usually a broken Spider?
You're doomed (sorry). That is exactly what happened to me on the hill. Had to pry on the Spider to get the weight to drop so I could start it. Then it was throttle on all the way to my cabin cuz if the R's dropped below 5K it would stall. It's pretty easy to look on the right side of the roller (if facing the Primary) and see if the washer is worn or gone. Another sign is that the roller is rough and ground down looking.
You can buy a replacement roller kit, which I would recommend doing once a season.
In reality these parts should last 3-4k miles. Pretty sure Cat knows this since most are getting repaired/replaced under warranty.
Where can you buy just the rollers or spider, looked at many different A/C sites and none show theses parts seperately.
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^^^^^^^ I would like to know the same ^^^^^^^^
I called 2 different cat parts places and they don't offer a spider replacement for a 2010 m8. Options are definately limited on this problem. I think Im gonna buy the Fett bros billet spider and button kit and replace mine before it cracks on me. Fricken cat clutching is junk!!!!!!!!!!
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I have the same problem 1 weight ground down and primary stays engaged. two seperate problems.
My clutch was staying engaged due to the set screws slipping or coming loose. The weight would then shift over and hang up on the roller washer.
I was told a M7 clutch spider will fit. I have one ready to go but it is at the shop and have not been down there to start assembly.
My clutch was staying engaged due to the set screws slipping or coming loose. The weight would then shift over and hang up on the roller washer.
I was told a M7 clutch spider will fit. I have one ready to go but it is at the shop and have not been down there to start assembly.
My bad. A friend told me hi-Perf was selling rebuild kits but just found out they only go up to 2004. Since Cat has to supply so many Primary's under warranty I'm suprised they're not making replacement parts. $450 toasted Primary due to a $.10 part.
So the best route is to buy a spider ($150) and have it ready on the shelf. That is what I'm doing.
Do you have to rebalance the clutch after replacing the spider?
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my nephews 2010 m8 weight got gouged the same way, and engine would stall, cat replaced the clutch, but now hes got crank issues due to ridding out of the mountains with a frigged up clutch, hes been down a month... these issues go back to the late 80s for me, ive got more clutch parts in my crate than anything else, ive always said its. vibrations, thats also why the cats were bad with stators .. i would ride and come home with black hands from tearing apart clutches all day on the trails...ive also had clutches explode on me, and cause thousands in damage and no warranty, i just sold a 06 m7 with very low miles, had a clutch grenade, i done all the repairs including, hood, secondary, guard ,bellypan and than sold for cheap cause i was afraid the crank might have taken a shock and be out, so that fkuin clutch cost me thousands, cat has to get thier chit together, or im gonna ride the competition accross the street from cat... i had a 98 700 pol with over 5000 miles and never did a clutch,,,,,,
So there is still NO one making - selling rollers ???? Unreal.
Rollers for the clutch's can be bought from cat, you need to check posts or find a cat parts man with more experience.
blown clutchs are result of over reving !!! READ TOOOO MANY RPM at some point. The dirtly little secret no one wants to admit to. Some folks wouldn't realize they hit 12000 rpm when they had a clutch full of snow. Blow a belt on a hill, 14000 rpm for a moment not out of the question. At that point the clutch needs to go in the garbage can no matter what, its a grenade with the pin pulled.
blown clutchs are result of over reving !!! READ TOOOO MANY RPM at some point. The dirtly little secret no one wants to admit to. Some folks wouldn't realize they hit 12000 rpm when they had a clutch full of snow. Blow a belt on a hill, 14000 rpm for a moment not out of the question. At that point the clutch needs to go in the garbage can no matter what, its a grenade with the pin pulled.
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2000 miles
Just rolled over 2000 miles on my '05 M7 and lost two rollers on Sunday and ruined one weight.
What is the best most cost effective route to get me back on the snow?
I blew a belt two rides before this, so I am assuming that is what took out the rollers. I will have to check the crank run-out tonight.
Just rolled over 2000 miles on my '05 M7 and lost two rollers on Sunday and ruined one weight.
What is the best most cost effective route to get me back on the snow?
I blew a belt two rides before this, so I am assuming that is what took out the rollers. I will have to check the crank run-out tonight.
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