2012 Proclimb M153 on the scales (pic) 11lbs over the 11

ghost rider · Aug 17, 2011

Weight Distribution

Everybody on this thread so far has posted some very valid arguments on both sides. But another thing to think about is not only how much more one sled weighs then the other. (30 to 40 Lbs Possibly?) But where is the extra weight distributed throughout the chassis? If it is distributed evenly it may not be as big of deal as one might think. If the majority of it is from the toe holes forward it could be the opposite. If I had a T1100 on order I wouldn't be as concerned as if I had a M800 and didn't plan to add boost. Because then there is a CHANCE you could be buying an underpowered-over weight sled in comparison. Boost tends to be an eqalizer.:face-icon-small-ton

jake432 · Aug 17, 2011

Its not about weight in my opinion its how the sled handles my xp was supposed to way 40 lbs less than an arctic cat and all I hear about arctic cats is how well they sidehill and boondock and Ive had to do some tweakin on mine just to hold a side hill, but the only time you will feel the weight is when your getting it unstuck or lifting it up.

ACMtnCat · Aug 17, 2011

Jaynelson said:
Pro's weighed exactly what Polaris said they would.....it was well documented with pictures on here when they came out.

With the same fliuds as Cat and Skidoo, the Pro weighs in at.

'11 Cat = 478
'09 Skidoo R = 460
'11 Pro = 456

http://www.snowest.com/snowmobile-news/print.cfm?id=2527

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polarisfornow · Aug 17, 2011

ok...so something to think about here is did the pro gain weight after a year of being out in the field? will the 12 pro be a couple pounds heavier?

so using the weights listed it would make them as follows

12 cat 489
11 pro 456
09 xp 460

i added 11 lbs to the 2011 if you were wondering where these number came from... all in all not too worried about the weight....

however if I was a poo loyalist it's prob all I would talk about everytime a cat guy got stuck :becky:

ACMtnCat · Aug 17, 2011

Ok, heres the thread I was looking for. And it's Eric W weighing the pro on the same scale as this proclimb! Enjoy!!!!!

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2454032

Jay is about as full of sht as snowmobiler is!

ProClimb weighs 34-37lbs more then the Pro RMK!

Hilly · Aug 17, 2011

It's official the season has started, Let the gamesmanship begin! I for one am happy!:face-icon-small-hap

sledfreak89 · Aug 17, 2011

9 times out of 10 if you loose weight you have strength issues.

Look at the Nytros when they came out, the XP's when they came out...

Id buy a heavier bulletproof sled if they had the option... Ill take the challange:face-icon-small-ton

camocat1000 · Aug 17, 2011

I have to agree with sled freak the poo's are cracking tunnels and running boards and without the front cooler there is a cooling issue IMO...you can make the sled as light as you want but will it hold together.

dmkhnr · Aug 17, 2011

Whats the 162 gonna weigh? Honestly, fill it to the brim with oil and fuel and we will have a number thats relevant. Otherwise, keep them dry and argue that a pro doesnt weigh 436 or a proclimb cant weigh 495.
Wet weight total will tell you what you start the ride with. At the end of the day its 65# lighter.

knifedge · Aug 17, 2011

--You can deduct at least a pound for the ratchet straps and the giant hook shown in the first post:face-icon-small-win

knifedge · Aug 17, 2011

--I think Polaris should offer a Hybrid PRO gas/electric version so you can still get back to truck when the pistons frag.

WyoBoy1000 · Aug 17, 2011

What's a stock can weigh on each,

B C · Aug 17, 2011

Wow, you know it's the dog days of summer when every fawking thread in the AC section turns into a Pro bash fest.

snowmobiler · Aug 18, 2011

427 wins!!!! bow to the king.

Duke · Aug 18, 2011

snowmobiler said:
427 wins!!!! bow to the king.

Looks like the king on the left.. Hehe

Goin For Snow · Aug 18, 2011

snowmobiler said:
427 wins!!!! bow to the king.

ok i will bite..

king of ?

Turbo11T · Aug 18, 2011

Goin For Snow said:
ok i will bite..

king of ?

KING OF THE FATTIES. That yamaha is def heavy. But alot of people like them with more power.

sled_guy · Aug 18, 2011

Cat was pretty open at SnowShoot about the fact that their goal was to get to a single chassis platform for both flatland and mountain sleds. The M chassis was pretty light compared to the F series stuff from years past. So moving to a new chassis that they can use for both segments benefited the flatlanders... the new F800 is like 60lbs lighter than the '11 was.

Does that plan to be on a single chassis hurt the possibilities to build a lighter mountain sled? Maybe so.

I rode the Pro Climb 800 at snowshoot and compared it to the '11 M8... the Pro Climb was almost as good as the '11 M8 was off trail in the powder, about the same down the trail. If they tweak on it a bit more from SnowShoot trim then I could see it performing like the '11 M8 did.

How that then compares to the Doo and Poo is up for debate I suppose.

sled_guy

Jaynelson · Aug 18, 2011

ACMtnCat said:
Ok, heres the thread I was looking for. And it's Eric W weighing the pro on the same scale as this proclimb! Enjoy!!!!!

http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2454032

Jay is about as full of sht as snowmobiler is!

Obviously advertised weight is dry weight....been they way for years with sleds, dirtbikes, boats, cars, etc....unless this is your first beer?

Read a few posts down in that same thread:

"So, for a true dry weight (no coolant, no injection oil, no gasoline) the published numbers are pretty accurate (436 lbs)
I figure 1 gallon of gas (about 7 lbs), 1 gallon of coolant (about 8 lbs), 1 qt of injection oil (2 lbs)... about 17lbs total in fluids....
452 -17 ... 435lbs dry.....
Good to see some accurate weights from the factory for a change."

Polaris calls it 431 so within 4lbs....sounds like a reasonable margin for error on those estimated liquid weights. Or even if it is 4 or 5lbs heavier, that is about as close as I've seen a manufacturer get. And using the numbers in this thread and that one....the Pro is 38lbs less (Unless 490 - 452 equals something other than 38lbs in ACMtnCat world?) than this proclimb on the same scale, with roughly the same fluids, any way you slice it. Is that substantial? Well, guys would spend good money trying to get rid of that. I really don't care either way....they're all junk to me....but gotta call it like it is.

ACMtnCat · Aug 18, 2011

Been said many times in all the weight threads, "who rides them dry"?

2012 Proclimb M153 on the scales (pic) 11lbs over the 11

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