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Riders,Do you hunt SB 5127 is bad Bad, BAD!

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DOO DAWG

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Had it suggested I put this here instead of fouled plug so let's see if i can insert a link here to all the information on the other thread in F[www.snowest.com/forum/showthread.php?t=140393P.


Well here goes

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Jerry Gutzwilers response to the HHC letter approving 5127
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First of all, most of you dont know, but HHC-Pac Board that represents Washingtonians for Wildlife Conservation, took a unanimous vote to support the original SSB5127 on March 1,2009 Please do not contact those organizations. They have already been contacted and have begun to do their will. I want to ADD that most of the groups on the list did not know about the HHC vote and letter.
Jerrys and a brother belong to one of those groups. There are other influential members of conservation groups who are members of other groups. They already know what Jerry knows.

(Feel free to Share)
TO HUNTERS HERITAGE COUNCIL COMMUNICATION FROM MARCH 2, 2009

This letter is being written in response to a communication put out to hunters......... the rest is in FP
 
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Washington Archery Coalition position on SB 5127
« on: March 17, 2009, 08:34:35 AM » Quote

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ACTION ALERT from the Washington Archery Coalition:

My Fellow Outdoors Enthusiast,

It has become evident over the course of the past ten days that a potentially devastating attack on our ability to participate in the hunting season-setting processes comes from Senate Bill 5127. It was passed by the Senate on March 12 and is now in the House Natural Resources Committee.

This bill would wipe out the safeguards that Referendum 45, which was passed by an overwhelming majority of the voters in 1995, put into place. If SB 5127 becomes law it would reconstruct the Fish & Wildlife Commission into a mere advisory board, and give the Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) the total authority to set our hunting seasons without the public input process we currently have.

For the record the commissioners aren’t raking in big bucks by serving. They are paid a hundred bucks a day for the meetings and get their room, board and gas money covered. The reason good people are attracted to serving is that the position is one of great responsibility and importance because the Director of the WDFW is hired by, fired by and answers to the commission.

The scuttlebutt is that the House Natural Resources Committee will either kill the bill, or amend it in an attempt to retain the Commission’s current regulatory authority over the WDFW; but this would keep everything else in the bill, including changing the position of Director of the WDFW into a cabinet appointment (by the Governor) rather than an appointment controlled by the Fish & Wildlife Commission. It was the current Governor who stripped the commission of four members, and replaced them with four of her own choosing, thereby igniting a scuffle that started a downward spiral that the commission has suffered from ever since. Would it be a good idea for a Governor, any Governor, to be given authority to appoint some friend as the Director of WDFW? In my opinion, no, it wouldn’t.

It is speculated that, if this bill dies in the House Natural Resources Committee, the Senate is prepared to then call each current commissioner up for confirmation as it should have done long ago (but, for some political reasons unbeknownst to me, hasn’t). George Orr is the only seated commissioner who has been confirmed. The only one! I think this is more evidence of political ballyhoo. I hope that SB 5127 does die in the committee so that the Governor will be obligated to compel the Senate to move forward with the confirmation processes; the current commissioners who are unworthy will be canned and others will be appointed to take their places. That is how it was designed to work and when allowed to work, it works well. It is further conjectured that the Senate likely will not confirm anyone except Chuck Perry. From the little bit I’ve spoken to Mr. Perry I think he is a good man and an asset to the hunting community.

A couple of days ago I was sent a link to a video recording of a February 2, 2009 Senate Natural Resources Committee hearing in which Mr. Ed Owens, representing both the Coalition of Coastal Fisheries and the Hunters Heritage Council, spoke in support of the bill. This confuses me because as a longtime supporter of Mr. Owens and the HHC I don't understand why 'my' lobbyist would support a bill that would take the public input process away from hunters. That is… unless he knows full well that it won't make it out of the House committee. I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt and presume that this is the case.

Mr. Owens was among the people who helped write Referendum 45. It was Referendum 45 that gave us equity of harvest. For the past fourteen years the commission has protected us from the department. Archery hunters have been satisfied with the allocation formula used to allocate the bull tags on the east side; the commission gave us that against the department’s requests. The commission has been very fair to hunters over the years. Many times the department recommended that archery seasons be shortened and many times the commission listened to reasonable arguments against the department’s proposals and voted in favor of maintaining our season lengths. If the process that we have now is abolished archery hunting will suffer.

Commercial fishing interests are supporting the bill. Nothing against them, but I don’t believe they have hunters' best interests at heart on this one. And I don’t think it is right to rub out the only safeguard hunters have just to appease the commercial fishing industry. So, I believe we are courting disaster if we don’t fight against this attempt to change the current commission structure.

We have approximately one week to make it known to our Representatives in the House how we feel about significance of Referendum 45. To do so go to: http://www.leg.wa.gov/legislature then click the "Find your District" tab; fill in your address and it will give you the links and addresses of your Representatives. The most important contacts right now are the eight members of the House Agriculture and Natural Resources Committee: Chairman Brian Blake, Vice-Chairman Jim Jacks, Bruce Chandler, Norma Smith, Laura Grant-Herriot, Joel Kretz, Marko Liias and John McCoy. Everyone in the state can write to a Committeeperson, but if any of them are from your district tell them so, and then your letter will be of particularly strong influence!

Please take the time to send them a letter (or at least an email; but a letter carries more weight) expressing what it means to you as a hunter to have a Fish & Wildlife Commission with the authority to regulate the actions of the Washington Department of Fish & Wildlife. The importance of this should be especially obvious now, in light of the tremendous turnout by the archery hunters at the commission meeting two weeks ago; of the approximately one hundred people who attended on Saturday it is estimated that as many as three-quarters of them were archery hunters. Significant gains were made at that meeting. It was Referendum 45 that made the public’s involvement possible. This public process will be lost if SB 5127 becomes law.

For Archery Hunting,
Dale Sharp

PS. You can read the Commission’s Position Statement on SB5127 by clicking this link or by cutting and pasting it into your browser’s address line: http://www.wdfw.wa.gov/commission/meetings/2009/03/mar1309_5127sb_fwc_position.pdf
They explained it better than I can.
 
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Please help us even if you don't hunt or fish, I'm begging.

Thanks Doo Dawg - Eric



From my State Rep




From: Bailey, Cameron (bailey.cameron@leg.wa.gov) on behalf of Pearson, Rep. Kirk (Pearson.Kirk@leg.wa.gov)
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Sent: Mon 3/23/09 11:44 AM
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Mr. Zielasko,

Rep. Pearson asked me to let you know that he received your email regarding SB 5127 this morning. He also asked me to tell you that he shares your very serious concerns with the bill as it is currently drafted.

I understand that it is being heard in his committee on March 24th at 8:00am. That would I think be a good place to try and stop or seriously amend the bill.

Sincerely,
Cameron Bailey
Senior L.A. to Rep. Kirk Pearson
 

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Thanks for the info DOO DAWG, I cant say if all the info on your link is the truth but I do know that some of it is.I have had a conversation with the game warden and hunt with a deputy from the area. There are bulls being taken for the antlers and its the tribe. The unit has changed for the worse, I been hunting it my entire life:mad:
 
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Huntingwa says it died in committee, but I can't find a link to proove it true yet




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« Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 08:33:40 PM »


The language is being changed stay tuned ,ive talked with a lot of the law makers on this issue.There are definit problems that we all feel need to change ,hopefully for the better.
 
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5127 is Alive in HB1778
« on: March 30, 2009, 10:01:29 PM

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http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2009-10/Pdf/Bill Reports/Senate/1778-S SBR NROR 09.pdf

Yep,right there on page 5


"Fish and Wildlife Governance. Changes are made to the structure of the Commission,
including reducing the number of commissioners from nine to seven and reducing terms of
commissioners from six to four years. Six of the Commissioners must come from each DFW
region and one must be at-large. The Commission must select the chair and vice-chair for
two-year terms. The authority to appoint the Director is transferred from the Commission to
the Governor, with the Governor required to select from among three candidates
recommended by the Commission. Director appointments must be made with the consent of
the Senate. A process is created to facilitate the transfer from the current to the new
Commission structure. Commission appointments must be made with the advice and consent
of the Senate.

Establishes that the Commission be comprised of seven members, each with four-year terms.
Establishes that six commissioners come from each DFW region and one be at-large.
Provides that the Commission select the chair and vice-chair for two-year terms, but
beginning in 2014, the chair must have two years of experience. Vacates current Commission
positions August 1, 2009, and requires the Governor to appoint seven commissioners by
August 1, 2009, with the initial terms staggered. Requires the Governor to appoint the
Director from among three candidates recommended by the Commission. Requires that
Commission appointments be made with the advice and consent of the Senate. Requires that
Director appointments be made with the consent of the Senate. Requires the Commission
hold four regular meetings annually and special meetings when called, with a quorum being
four members."
 
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Message sent. Thanks for heads up!:beer;





Seems we did it for now....... Zarelli eh?




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Good News for the Commission, but dont fall asleep
« on: Yesterday at 03:50:18 PM » Quote

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5127 language stripped and 1778 passed
#374124 - 04/15/09 08:55 AM



In case you have not heard, SHB 1778 passed out of the Senate yesterday without the Jacobsen 5127 language. Yea! (It was stripped out after Senator Zarelli challenged the amendment on the grounds it went beyond the scope of the title.

With 1778, sporties will pay a 10% surcharge on licenses for the next two years but overall, this is great news.

Thanks to all who wrote and spoke up against the 5127 B.S.
 
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