2012 Proclimb M153 on the scales (pic) 11lbs over the 11

Jaynelson · Aug 18, 2011

^ In over your head eh? No prob, I remember my first beer too!

Anyways...same scale, same dude weighing, coming with roughly the same fluids and ready to ride other than gas, 38lbs difference. Argue it any way you want....the difference is really all that matters. Dry weights are like fuel economy ratings....good for comparison, but not exactly what you'll have in the real world. If I want to be a dick, technically the Pro even has a longer track to boot!

If 38lbs is a big deal.....is up to the customer. In my honest personal opinion, if I liked Cats, I don't think 38lbs would change my mind to buy something else. That said, I'm not going to sell my poo to get something heavier. Your mileage may vary.

007 · Aug 18, 2011

Say what you want but I'm a bit disappointed that Cat came in almost 40lbs heavier!

I ordered a XFHC to play with and I'm already at a disadvantage to my friend who bought a Polaris? 10 maybe 20lbs and I'm like whatever BUT 40?

KJP

Turbo11T · Aug 18, 2011

007 said:
Say what you want but I'm a bit disappointed that Cat came in almost 40lbs heavier!

I ordered a XFHC to play with and I'm already at a disadvantage to my friend who bought a Polaris? 10 maybe 20lbs and I'm like whatever BUT 40?

KJP

Just be thankful that the prormk is light when your towing him out! Fricken polaris engines.

WyoBoy1000 · Aug 18, 2011

No one has disputed the crate weight being more, they where disputing the dry vs crate weight. I am willing to bet once you add a turbo and ditch all the weight that is easily removed on both sleds you will be within 15lbs. But the HP is going to be way more.

AndrettiDog · Aug 18, 2011

But the HP is going to be way more.

what? Maybe 7 hp? I'll take the 40lbs weight savings and add a head to the Pro.

ACMtnCat · Aug 18, 2011

Jay, your over looking one glaring thing about your precious pile of POO!. A 145HP in a weak cranked piston eating motor is not even close to making up for a 38# weight advantage. Your small dick comment about the a bigger track just draws attention to that fact!

Turbo11T · Aug 18, 2011

BugIto said:
what? Maybe 7 hp? I'll take the 40lbs weight savings and add a head to the Pro.

I think that cat can't afford a bomb of a sled, so they didn't release a bomb. They will see what is weak and what is overbuilt this year, then cut weight for next year. The End user can find ways to abuse the sled so much more than a cat test rider. I would bet that polaris is probally heavier in 2012 than 2011. and that cat will be lighter in 2013 than 2012. Makes sense to me.

Turbo11T · Aug 18, 2011

ACMtnCat said:
Jay, your over looking one glaring thing about your precious pile of POO!. A 145HP in a weak cranked piston eating motor is not even close to making up for a 38# weight advantage. Your small dick comment about the a bigger track just draws attention to that fact!

HAHHAHAHAHA lol

I am scared of 2 stroke engines. . . . Especially the polaris 800.

Jaynelson · Aug 18, 2011

ACMtnCat said:
Jay, your over looking one glaring thing about your precious pile of POO!. A 145HP in a weak cranked piston eating motor is not even close to making up for a 38# weight advantage. Your small dick comment about the a bigger track just draws attention to that fact!

Even with the 163" weiner the pro still weighs less than the small-weiner-edition 153" cat whaaaat? Everyone wants more weiner for their money....but no one wants fat chicks.

MT Backcountry · Aug 18, 2011

weights

So the lighter the easier it is to bend up. And you will if you hit a SMALL rock I have seen it Polarias and Doo BOYS.:face-icon-small-ton just my 2 cents worth.

Jaynelson · Aug 18, 2011

MT Backcountry said:
So the lighter the easier it is to bend up. And you will if you hit a SMALL rock I have seen it Polarias and Doo BOYS.:face-icon-small-ton just my 2 cents worth.

Unless it's a Yamaha right? Then that's just too heavy? This logic only applies in Cat-land?

sparkguyver · Aug 18, 2011

Scale in picture.

I know this may seem kind of irrelevant, but when was the last time this scale was calibrated? When did he weigh the 2011 M8? Not that this weight issue is important to me because I am going from my 07 XFire800 that weighed 525lbs. with 143hp to an XF800HC that is supposed to around 451lbs. with 163+ horsepower. On top of the horsepower difference I am also wondering how much more HP & torque we will get to the track over the old Diamond Drive? I can't wait until it arrives.

MT Backcountry · Aug 18, 2011

Cats just hold up better in the mountains of Montana:sun:

WyoBoy1000 · Aug 18, 2011

Jaynelson said:
Even with the 163" weiner the pro still weighs less than the small-weiner-edition 153" cat whaaaat? Everyone wants more weiner for their money....but no one wants fat chicks.

She said thicker weiner was better than long skinny lightweight weiner.

You can ask any turbo builder and on a 2 stroke the cat is hard to beat, it makes more power and more reliably. Everyone B1tched about the weight of a m1000 and my piped weight reduced m1000 beat every other NA sled I came across, I bought it brand new and all together had $11,500, in it and no one could feel the weight. Like I have said 100 times, I want light weight but if it handles as good or better than a pro then I will have one, the weight can be removed for pennies and the extra hp makes up for it, but only if it handles right.

Jaynelson · Aug 18, 2011

WyoBoy1000 said:
She said thicker weiner was better than long skinny lightweight weiner.

That's just what chicks tell short-weinered guys so they will keep buying them stuff

WyoBoy1000 · Aug 18, 2011

Jaynelson said:
That's just what chicks tell short-weinered guys so they will keep buying them stuff

You got me, I only got 3", wide!

For a car salesman your not really sellin it.

swrev · Aug 18, 2011

MT Backcountry said:
Cats just hold up better in the mountains of Montana:sun:

Why are there so many threads about welding up Cat bulkheads? Cat needed to add weight to an already weak chassis

WyoBoy1000 · Aug 18, 2011

swrev said:
Why are there so many threads about welding up Cat bulkheads? Cat needed to add weight to an already weak chassis

I haven't had it happen, I guess that .5lbs you could add is just BULL CHIT ehh. I have also seen one that was broke for a couple thousand miles and still worked.

Jaynelson · Aug 18, 2011

swrev said:
Why are there so many threads about welding up Cat bulkheads?

Doesn't count....engine, clutch and chassis repair threads only exist in Doo and Pol sections. Also in this section everyone would rather have a heavier sled.

knifedge · Aug 18, 2011

--One added component I'll gladly take that other sleds do not have is the Torque Arm between the clutches that retains perfect clutch alignment. Less stress on everything-engine, bulkhead, belt, clutches, mounts, bearings. A really much superior addition by Arctic Cat over other brands.

--I think the hood on the Pro is actually a structural member for the chassis, but since it has a pinwheel crankshaft, it works just fine.

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