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DOO DAWG

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If we like more closures and regulations We should leave this alone..... if not - we need to get TO this. From MY post on Huntingnet.com

Lets see if the link is still there



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Status: online Get ready to bend over if we don't respond to some of thier new proposals. Don't let the PETA's and other Anti hunters outnumber us . Much of it is BAD and we need to do all we can to stop a lot of it.........




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WDFW News Release: WDFW invites hunters, others to help develop hunting seasons for 2009-11‏

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WDFW NEWS RELEASE
Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
600 Capitol Way North, Olympia, WA 98501-1091
http://wdfw.wa.gov/
June 23, 2008
Contact: WDFW Wildlife Program, (360) 902-2515
WDFW invites hunters, others to help
develop hunting seasons for 2009-11
OLYMPIA - The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife (WDFW) is inviting hunters, conservation groups and the general public to help shape state hunting seasons for 2009-11.
Through July 13, WDFW will accept public comments on issues ranging from general hunting hours to mule deer seasons. A questionnaire on those issues is posted on the department's website at http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/game/seasonsetting/index.htm .
Hunters and others can also suggest their own ideas for future hunting seasons, said Dave Ware, WDFW game manager.
"This is the first of several opportunities people will have to participate in developing hunting seasons for the next three years," Ware said. "We have certain management goals that we must meet, but we want to involve hunters and other members of the public in helping us determine how best to achieve them."
Once the first comment period is over, WDFW will assess recommendations received from the public and use them in developing various season alternatives and proposed hunting regulations for 2009-11, Ware said.
In mid-August, WDFW will post those alternatives for public comment on its website and kick off a series of public meetings throughout the state. Evening meetings are planned Aug. 25 in Everett; Aug, 26 in Aberdeen; Aug. 27 in Tacoma; Aug. 28 in Vancouver, Wash.; Sept. 2 in Wenatchee; Sept. 3 in Spokane Valley; and Sept. 4 in Pasco. Specific times and locations of those meetings will be announced in July.
In March and April 2009, the Washington Fish and Wildlife Commission will take public comments and consider adopting the proposed hunting seasons.
WDFW will provide regular updates on the hunting season-setting process via the WDFW website noted above. Interested citizens can also receive updates through the mail by calling (360) 902-2515 and asking to be added to the mailing list.







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Good post. I'll flipped through and later I'll fill it out. What things are you mentioning? I think I'll mention indian poaching, as well as my expectation for them to monitor the wolves in the northeast. Not quite sure how to deal with the declining mule deer on the east slope. Or the elk in the Blues... any thoughts?

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The good 1. They are asking if we want to try to extend the muzzeloader season opening it the last weekend in September for deer,ending the Friday before Modern rifle as it is now.
2 they are asking if we want toto expand the number of GMU's open to muzzeloaders in general season
3 they are asking if we want to bring muzzeloader equipment {scopes, modern weapons) up to date
That's it for the good


Now SOME of the bad

1 They are asking if we want to make the Colockum area a "true spike" onl
y. (which I could live with)
2 They are asking if they should close more roads in the area
Not even mentioning how badly the cover in the area has been raped by DNR logging.OR Poaching OR indians
3 They are asking if we want to make the Colockum area a special permit ONLY area.
I talked to a man in Yakima a couple weeks ago that told me the the second two were not even being considered
4 They are asking if we should raise the special App. fee to from $25- $50 per application
5 They are asking if they shoud limit the number of hunt choices we can put in for (Now limited to 4) to 4 or Less than
6 They are asking if they should set aside a pool of SP's for Non Residents ONLY Mind you Non residents pay ten times as much for everything in fees.
Does that one not smack of REVENUE grabbing? As does #4


That is just a few of the ideas they are putting out there..... And mind you this is on the net so anyone can give thier opinions that could make hunting as hard and expensive on us as Possible, if they don't happen to agree with hunting.
I have sent this to ALL in my address book who would be concerned about it and put it here also.
My hope is that all will respond and post to let us know they have
As you can see there will be 6 meetings throughout the state for us to attend an do what we can to make our feelings known to the wildlife commission, which as many as possible should attend.


Last time I did one of these....they adopted just about everything i spoke out against.

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I live in Cooke Canyon which is the first Canyon to the west. I think that the Clockum should be a spike only. For the past two years almost all of the elk have high tailed it for the Clockum haven before the end of opening day. Same with deer. They need to open it.

Second. The Indians need to be banned from raping our wildlife and just staying [hunting] on the reservation. They can shoot what ever they want.

As a dirtbiker how rides the clockum AND hunts the adjacent GMU we should NOT close the roads. All wildlife deals with it year around. Most hunters drive to the area they hunt so wouldn't they be disturbing the wildlife? I don't see the disadvantage to hunters.

Thanks guys!!!
 
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Can anyone explain to me why it's spike only on the east side, 3-point or better on the west for Elk. Then just opposite for deer.



Yeah.....spike only Colockum, Blues, and Yakima....And 3 point or better westside and with NE Wa being any Bull . I think they listen to greenie liberal biologists who want to make things as confusing and tough as possible on us.
 
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West vs. East

I was told that it was to create better troughy bull populations and there are twice as many hunters over here that hunt elk and its fairly open so the success rate is higher. There are probably alot more deer hunters over there so they limit it to spike over there and 3 pt minimum over here.
 
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I took the survey and it was long but interesting. I also think a spike should be a clean beam an both sides to clear up the debate. Actually, I think Eastern WA Elk should be a lotto only for all Elk and they should close bear and couger during Elk and Deer to cut down on group hunting and get some people out of the woods until they get the desired numbers back.
 
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I took the survey and it was long but interesting. I also think a spike should be a clean beam an both sides to clear up the debate. Actually, I think Eastern WA Elk should be a lotto only for all Elk and they should close bear and couger during Elk and Deer to cut down on group hunting and get some people out of the woods until they get the desired numbers back.



I think I would use the word scary to describe the thing myself. As I stated before, I could live with the spike both sides thing.
As for the lotto thing. just think how much money they could collect from those who would not have been pushed over the edge by things like that using thier proposed SP fee increases. that one may not get me over the edge alone...but couple it with just one or two of the others they are asking about and I will be leaving the state to hunt and they won't get a dime from me anymore.
as for the closures during deer and elk of bear and cougar....that one will just save me the difference between the deer and elk,and the deer elk,cougar' bear choice.......or about 2 1/4 gallons of gas or diesel
As for "group hunting" ..I don't really think we've encountered it much at all...except maybe with those out there who don't speak or read english that we encounter driving on well posted CLOSED roads often.
Now we've yet to see what the skyrocketing price of fuel will do to the hunter numbers this year but I would guess they will be down.
They seem to be only worried about the Colockum herd, and I would rather see them close the hunting in the area for a year or two (while we hunt elswhere) than see a lotto thing .
As for closing roads...NO WAY... why not move the seasons back a week and let the weather make those roads less appealing to many?
We should remember that the more they can regulate one groups use of the land....the BETTER chance they have of pushing through more restrictions on other groups......such as maybe bike, quad riders, or maybe even Snowmobilers??

One last thing (for this post) Did you notice that there was absolutely no mention of Tribal hunting or poaching???
 
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Here are the meeting dates for duscussion/public comment.................


Washington Dept. of Fish and Wildlife HUNTING


News Releases

Help shape future hunting seasons at 3 events in southwest Washington July 25, 2008

WDFW invites hunters, others to help develop hunting seasons for 2009-11 June 23, 2008

2009-2011 Hunting Season Setting Process

It’s that time again…

It’s time to develop the 2009-2011 hunting seasons. Major hunting objectives and season structures are set on a three-year cycle with minor adjustments during the off years. The process for developing a three-year hunting season package is an expanded version of the annual season-setting process. The exception is the major migratory bird hunting seasons, which are all set on an annual cycle to coincide with federal season-setting processes.

Establishment of all hunting seasons is guided by goals, objectives, and strategies contained in the 2009-2015 Game Management Plan. Starting in June, the Department will ask for your help to determine the major issues that you feel are important for the next three-year hunting season cycle. As outlined below, there will be several opportunities for you to provide your input throughout the process.

Watch this website for regular updates on the season-setting process.

Timeline:

1. Issue Scoping: April 2008 – July 2008

Public Comment Period Over: July 13

* 2009-2011 Hunting Season Package Issue Scoping Survey

2. Refining Alternatives: July 2008 – November 2008

Public Comment Period: August 12, 2008 – September 30, 2008

* After the initial issue-scoping phase, Department staff will refine the issues into preferred alternatives based on public comments received. These alternatives will be discussed at the public meetings held throughout the state in August and September.

"Statewide" Public Meeting Dates & Locations

* Bellingham – August 25
Broadway Hall
1300 Broadway
Bellingham, WA 98225

* Aberdeen – August 26
Log Pavilion at Morrison Riverfront Park
1401 Sargent Blvd.
Aberdeen, WA 98520

* Tacoma – August 27
Landmark Convention Center
47 Saint Helens Ave.
Tacoma, WA 98402

* Vancouver – August 28
Water Resources Education Center
4600 SE Columbia Way
Vancouver, WA 98663

* Wenatchee – September 2
Confluence Technology Center
285 Technology Center Way
Wenatchee, WA 98801

* Spokane – September 3
Mirabeau Park Hotel & Convention Center
North 1100 Sullivan Rd
Spokane Valley, WA 99037

* Pasco – September 4
TRAC Center
6600 Burden Blvd.
Pasco, WA 99301

3. Developing Recommendations (dates below are preliminary, final dates available in October):

Public Comment Period on specific rule proposals: January 20, 2009 – February 5, 2009

* After the public meetings are held, Department staff will develop recommendations for consideration by the Fish and Wildlife Commission in March and April 2009. These recommendations will be based on the biological needs of a species and information collected during the public meetings.

Commission Meetings:

* March 2009
* April 2009

Find a bug or error in the system? Let us know about it!
© 2008 Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
E-mail <webmaster@dfw.wa.gov>
 
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there is Another survey out there 'till Sept 30...see #2....Bummer..the links didn't come through!!! get there through the original post. Sorry.

Washington Dept. of Fish and Wildlife HUNTING


News Releases

Help shape future hunting seasons at seven meetings around the state August 13, 2008

Help shape future hunting seasons at 3 events in southwest Washington July 25, 2008

WDFW invites hunters, others to help develop hunting seasons for 2009-11 June 23, 2008

2009-2011 Hunting Season Setting Process

It’s that time again…

It’s time to develop the 2009-2011 hunting seasons. Major hunting objectives and season structures are set on a three-year cycle with minor adjustments during the off years. The process for developing a three-year hunting season package is an expanded version of the annual season-setting process. The exception is the major migratory bird hunting seasons, which are all set on an annual cycle to coincide with federal season-setting processes.

Establishment of all hunting seasons is guided by goals, objectives, and strategies contained in the 2009-2015 Game Management Plan. Starting in June, the Department asked for your help to determine the major issues that are important to you for the next three-year hunting season cycle.Thank you for such a great response. We had nearly 4,000 people respond to the scoping survey. The results are posted below.

There are several opportunities for you to provide your input throughout the process. Keep watching this website for regular updates on the season-setting process.

Timeline:

1. Issue Scoping: April 2008 – July 2008

Public Comment Period Over: July 13

* Scoping Survey Summary
* Scoping Survey Written Comments

2. Refining Alternatives: July 2008 – November 2008

Public Comment Period: August 13, 2008 – September 30, 2008

* 2009-2011 Hunting Season Package Alternatives Survey Complete the survey online

* After the initial issue-scoping phase, Department staff refined the issues into preferred alternatives based on public comments received. The alternatives will be discussed at the public meetings held throughout the state in August and September.

* Issues and Alternatives Fact Sheets

Public Meeting Dates & Locations (all meetings begin at 7:00pm)

* Bellingham – August 25
Broadway Hall
1300 Broadway
Bellingham, WA 98225

* Aberdeen – August 26
Log Pavilion at Morrison Riverfront Park
1401 Sargent Blvd.
Aberdeen, WA 98520

* Tacoma – August 27
Landmark Convention Center
47 Saint Helens Ave.
Tacoma, WA 98402

* Vancouver – August 28
Water Resources Education Center
4600 SE Columbia Way
Vancouver, WA 98663

* Wenatchee – September 2
Confluence Technology Center
285 Technology Center Way
Wenatchee, WA 98801

* Spokane – September 3
Mirabeau Park Hotel & Convention Center
North 1100 Sullivan Rd
Spokane Valley, WA 99037

* Pasco – September 4
TRAC Center
6600 Burden Blvd.
Pasco, WA 99301

3. Developing Recommendations (dates below are preliminary, final dates available in October):

Public Comment Period on specific rule proposals: January 20, 2009 – February 5, 2009

* After the public meetings are held, Department staff will develop recommendations for consideration by the Fish and Wildlife Commission in March and April 2009. These recommendations will be based on the biological needs of a species and information collected during the public meetings.

Commission Meetings:

* March 2009
* April 2009

Find a bug or error in the system? Let us know about it!
© 2008 Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife
E-mail <webmaster@dfw.wa.gov>
 
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