Belt Drive on 3"
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It might be easier to start with the Quickdrive models and upgrade a 2.6 to a 3inch track.
Tom at TKILLC is going to have a belt drive kit that gives you the gearing you will need to turn that monster track. And for those guys who want to move their old kit to the 16, you are in luck as you will only have to buy a new mounting plate from Tom (or me).
But if you have the chain case version, I expect it will probably be like the old style where you need to buy a back plate from Polaris before getting Tom's kit.
He no longer makes a kit that fits inside the chain case as the gearing was too limited.
I will be running a TKI as soon as they are available
I've taken a stock Pro chassis and upgraded to the 3" track. I know what that costs. ($2100 on my 2013). Takes a lot to set the skid and chassis up for the 3" track.
The TKI belt drive is about 1/3 or 1/4 of that cost.
Unless there is something about the 2016 models that I'm painfully unaware of....for the money I would get the 3" track with the chaincase and then upgrade to the TKI.
IT's WAY more cost effective (1/4 to 1/3 of the cost) and the sled is already set up for the 3" track.
The TKI belt drive is about 1/3 or 1/4 of that cost.
Unless there is something about the 2016 models that I'm painfully unaware of....for the money I would get the 3" track with the chaincase and then upgrade to the TKI.
IT's WAY more cost effective (1/4 to 1/3 of the cost) and the sled is already set up for the 3" track.
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C3 will be producing a AXYS RMK belt drive
C3 will have a belt drive for the AYXS RMK chassis as well. Although it is too early to speculate on the details of that and whether he will have both versions for the CC or QD.
C3 will have a belt drive for the AYXS RMK chassis as well. Although it is too early to speculate on the details of that and whether he will have both versions for the CC or QD.
Unless I am missing something, the chassis will be the same (7" drivers, and same clearance to the bulkhead) for both the 3" and the 2.6" versions. So, again, unless I am the one missing something, a 3" should drop right on to a 2.6 without modifications
The sleds that come with a 3" track and chain case. Will have 3" pitch track & drives. The 2.6" track, with qd has 2.86" pitch track & drivers. So on the qd sleds you will need to change drivers and track and maybe gear ratio depending on elevation. If you're under 5000" the stock qd ratio will be fine imo.
For chaincase models like the 3" and SKS, Axys bulkhead has the chaincase half molded into the casting. The QD Axys has a different bulkhead casting without the chaincase moulding.
The dynamics of converting an Axys with a chaincase to an aftermarket belt drive might be changing.
The dynamics of converting an Axys with a chaincase to an aftermarket belt drive might be changing.
Beat me to it! I am doubting there will be an easy way around this by the time the snow flies. Would be much easier to have ordered a 2.6", sell the 2.6" and buy the 3" and the TKI.
True, but we don't know if converting the AXYS chaincase to belt drive is impossible yet.
I could be wrong, but I still think it's more expensive to buy a track (including peripherals of drivers, suspension set up and labor) than it is a belt drive with labor.
I'm just gonna ride it and grin from ear to ear:becky:
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both tki and c3 intend to have a kit by fall so we wll have to see i guess. coming from a cat i dont know the pain of the first quick drive problems but going from a chain case to an aftermarket belt drive was one of the best things i did on my m800.
I agree completely and after owning both companies belt drives I will be running another TKI, not that there is anything wrong with the C3 kits it's just that Tom is that much better on the phone and customer service
It seems to me that swapping the track and drivers on a QD model would be a better way to go. You can sell the Series 6 2.6" track if you want to cover part of the cost. Selling the chain drive is unlikely to yield you much if you do it the other way around. Having had a 2013 Pro with the 162" X3 track and stock gearing, I don't think that the QD Axys will have any trouble pulling the lighter Series 7 3" track. My 13 would pull the X3 track at 8200 to 8300 RPM in deep snow at 8,000'. I believe that the gearing on the Axys Pro QD model is lower than what my 13 Pro was even after going to the 7 tooth drivers. I ordered the 2.6 in a 163" because I wanted the QD and the lighter weight. Swapping to a 3" Series 7 was always an option in the back of my mind. However, I think that the new 2.6 series track is going to be all that I need.
The manual start 163 x 2.6 with a light can and the HO motor is going to have an incredible power to weight ratio and also a footprint/mass ratio that have never before ben seen in production sleds, let alone customized sleds. The Axys should perform like a turbo sled with the older chassis. Remember the 2.6 may have less traction but due to its lighter weight, it will have better floatation then the 3". If you get stuck with the 2.6 track, it will be all pilot error. I expect the feel of the 3" compared to the 2.6" will be like comparing a 2015 163 v.s a 155 for agility, track speed and playfulness, yet the traction will be much closer. The stock QD gearing will spin these new big tracks but when the track is loaded with heavy snow, you are going to burn clutch belts, the chain drive gearing will be fine on clutch belt but does come with a weight penalty. Also if you added electric start, that's another 23 lbs.
No, you're right. But for the guy that wants his sled to have a 3" and TKI the day the snow flies, I think it would've been easier to guarantee yourself that setup if you just ordered the 2.6. I'm sure lots of Pro guys will want that 2.6 track so it should be worth a good chunk of change. We'll see, I for one can't wait for all of the axys parts to come out!
Poo will be asking a premium price for the 2.6, at least in the first year, compared to a CamoX, etc., so it will likely be a seller's market for the 2.6. First year OEM tracks are always like this. I thought I saw a suggested price for the 2.6 just short of $900US this spring.
Pro owners are going to want to swap stock drivers, or trim the 2.6 below the coolers to run a 2.6. But they will buy them.
Pro owners are going to want to swap stock drivers, or trim the 2.6 below the coolers to run a 2.6. But they will buy them.
If the 2.6 is inadequate I will move it to my 2015.:face-icon-small-win
I rode the 2.6...
Almost identical to the Camoplast 9174M or 9175M... This is, IMO, the best "swiss army knife" of mountain tracks out there...I'm expecting the same from the 2.6" which is 0.10" taller lug and center ported.
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Almost identical to the Camoplast 9174M or 9175M... This is, IMO, the best "swiss army knife" of mountain tracks out there...I'm expecting the same from the 2.6" which is 0.10" taller lug and center ported.
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