Those that have either worked on/added or removed ES, do you need to remove the engine in order to remove or add ES?
Adding/Removing ES on PRO
- Thread starter LongHorn XC
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No you don't.
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Is the ring gear on the primary part of the kit or do they all have that? Looks like the only trick is getting a clutch puller to remove that gear. The wiring and the starter motor look pretty accessible with the hood off.
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Why do you want to remove ring gear? Just to remove electric start?
If you are selling the ES gear then you need to trade primary clutches. You have to get the ring gear already installed on the clutch from the factory to have ES.
If you are removing ES to save weight, just leave the ring gear alone and you don't have to pull your clutch. The gear isn't that heavy.
Why do you want to remove ring gear? Just to remove electric start?
If you are selling the ES gear then you need to trade primary clutches. You have to get the ring gear already installed on the clutch from the factory to have ES.
If you are removing ES to save weight, just leave the ring gear alone and you don't have to pull your clutch. The gear isn't that heavy.
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Electric start kit comes with a new clutch with gear on it,makes it pretty cheap for the kit.
I've seen "take-off" kits on Ebay... without clutch and the seller is still asking top dollar for it.
The Dealer price on the full ES kit, with brand new primary clutch is right around $550 if you bargain with them a bit. (does not include the battery)
Take into account that you cannot bolt on an ES Ring gear to a non ES Primary clutch... and that "kit" is worth the price of a used starter and drive basically.
"Take off" ES kits, which I believe will show up a lot after the 2015's are delivered, if you had to trade the seller for your primary clutch, would be worth about $200 max in my opinion ... if no trade... I'd say $100 for the starter "kit" without primary as the primary is a pricey item and hard to find used at a decent price. Buy an ES kit sell your primary and you will only be out of pocket $250 or so... for a new kit.
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Ok a little off subject, but if I snowcheck a 15 pro and and can't get anything off for not taking electric start what could I reasonably get to sell it as a take off later?
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I've got the one I pulled off my 12. It"s still collecting dust.why do you need one?
I've got the one I pulled off my 12. It"s still collecting dust.why do you need one?
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I did not know how the kit was packaged and, I did not know it came with a different primary.
My sled came with ES. I bought it with 5 miles on it from some old lady. It started working intermittantly a couple weekends ago. I removed the battery mostly to access the QD system and left it out. I was considering removing the system and selling it. After reading the info in this thread I can see that removing it is a waste of time. I will now buy a lightweight battery, install that and keep using the ES. It is definately not worth removing to sell, especially if a clutch swap needs to occur.
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Electric start kits with ring gear and no primary are going for around $300 on the used market. I've sold a couple over the last year and I've seen a couple on here as well. Sold one kit for $350 locally and swapped the guy primary clutches.
I am ordering mine with ES. I will pull it off and sell it before it hits the snow. If I got a credit for not taking it I would not take it. However, since it is no charge, either way, why not take it, remove it and sell it. Polaris anticipates 10% of all RMK snowchecks with be ordered with ES. While that estimate may be the norm, I imagine that projection is low this year.
I ordered my RMK with the ES and it would be silly not too IMHO. If you dont want the extra weight remove it (ring gear is not an issue). Or use it with a lightweight lithium battery to dump 10lbs, however they do not work well in really cold temps.
But when it comes time to trade or sell the ES can increase resale value, so it's a win win, and you dont have to pay for it! Simple.
But when it comes time to trade or sell the ES can increase resale value, so it's a win win, and you dont have to pay for it! Simple.
Since for $550 you get a brand new kit with a brand new primary... You have the value of the primary that the person is taking off... which has a value, on the "used" market of $200 -$300 depending on condition.
With a trade... the person no longer has that to sell or the value of it as a spare on the shelf.
Take that away from the cost of the kit and you have about $250 - $300 NEW value ... then take off a bit for the fact that it is used, even if it is a "new take-off", and EVERYTHING is included, and I would say that a "take off" brand new starter kit with all wiring and primary clutch WITH a clutch trade should be reasonably priced at $150 -$250. I've seen them go for higher..even without a clutch...but that, IMO, was because of a misinformed buyer.
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Due to the fact that the electrical system in the Pro-RMK resembles that of a 1984 Ford Tempo, I would highly recommend that everyone leave it on their sled. The benefits of having a battery for the electrical system and a ring gear on the clutch for the motor far exceed the overall weight penalty. BRP has been running a ring gear on their non E-Start 800's for the last 7-8 years.
There are reasons why Polaris is/has offered E-Start at no extra charge.
If having E-Start makes you feel any less of a man, then keep it and use your pull start. Your sled will thank you for keeping it.
There are reasons why Polaris is/has offered E-Start at no extra charge.
If having E-Start makes you feel any less of a man, then keep it and use your pull start. Your sled will thank you for keeping it.
how much weight does the whole es even add?
What would be the benefits of the ring gear? Wouldn't balancing the clutch solve any issues?
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Skidoo sleds that come with ES don't have pull cords as standard. It is an extra item you have to buy and install. Will Polaris come with a pull cord on the ES snowcheck models?
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