• I've received emails and PM's asking me about "Group Buys" and promotions.

    A Group Buy here on SnoWestOnline.com would be a situation where a normal member (non vendor or mfg) personally collects orders from other members. That member then uses those orders to negotiate a better price with the Vendor/Mfg for HIS/HER "Group" of buyers.

    Here is an example of a viable "Group Buy"

    http://www.snowestonline.com/forum/showthread.php?t=269222

    A promotion that has the words "Group Buy" in the title is still a promotion, and from the rules that were handed down to me by Harris Publications is that non-advertisers cannot run promotions or open sales programs on the forums outside of the swapmeet.

    If a members wants to become a group buy manager, maintain a thread and collect the funds and negotiate a group buy... as a member, you are welcome to do that as long as you are not attached to the business of the vendor or Mfg.

    If you are a vendor/MFG and you want to offer an EXCLUSIVE "SnoWestOnline ONLY" promotion that is exclusive to snowest readers, please contact me and you'll be able to put it up in the Polaris forums.

    Also, before any vendors/mfgs get all "riled up" over this know that the moderators are strictly volunteers and do not receive a dime from any advertising $$ spent on this site.

    As ALWAYS, since DAY ONE of me becoming a moderator, I have pioneered, supported and encouraged vendors and mfgs in getting the word out to our readers with "New Product Announcements.

    Have a great season.

    From this point on, all vendors/mfg's promoting Pre-Season tiered sales programs, in the Polaris Forums, that are not paid advertisers will be appropriately moved to the swapmeet section of the forums.

    MH

Speedwerx Supercharger

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Who is doing one? Anybody have any experience riding one? What are the pros and cons? How do they compare to a turbo?
 

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I do not have one on a sled, but have been using Prochargers for years on hotrods I build. When they 1st came out about 25 yrs ago for cars and trucks I built my own brackets to use in different applicantions. Now they have them turn key with excellent fit, finish and drivability for the auto industry. It's crazy how much hp you can make with these because they don't add the heat as much as a turbo so you can run more boost, especially with inter cooling . The Procharger company doesnt make kits for the power sports industry, thats where a few aftermarket companies like Speedworks come in. They (aftermarket) are making the brackets, tunes etc to make these work for SXS's, motorcycles and snowmobiles. The pro's are less under hood heat, much lower inlet air temps, slight boost even at idle (impeller always spinning) resulting in excellent throttle response, very reliable and self contained oiling system, no need to change compression domes on sled for different altitudes like some turbos and runs on pump gas. Con's is there isn't as many out there compared to all the turbos so the cost is higher for building and tuning, and lower gains at sea level. Compared to a turbo you will have instant boost, good blower reliability but run ability will depend on who is tuning them similar to turbos. If you look at the Procharger site, you will see a basic chart of what the small blowers will produce. For instance aB-1 on a 150ph N/A motor will produce up to 250hp boosted. A smaller A-1R will take a 95hp N/A up to 150hp boosted. https://www.procharger.com/sites/default/files/Supercharger_Specs-POWERSPORTS.jpg
The pic below is on my old corvette test mule. This blower has been through the ringer and never fails and embarrasses a lot of people, just driven to church on Sundays of course ;)IMG_5761.JPG
 
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I talked to Kevin yesterday, lots of kits are being made, but because of the demand they are on back order. There is no dome changes for different altitudes like some turbos, just a simple pulley change. Value wise they don't have very good gains for the price at sea level lower altitudes, but the higher altitude kits are running great on just pump gas. If you have more questions you can call Speedwerx at 1-651-982-6020
 

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I don't know where they are mounting the heat exchanger for the intercooler system on the Polaris kits, but on the Cats it is on the bottom of the bulkhead under the motor. So if early season rock and stump bashing is your thing it is susceptible to damage. Since they are building boost all the time they always require extra fuel so they can be thirsty. Friend has one on his Alpha and If he wants to make it over 45 miles he needs to pack extra fuel. After riding his it would be the only way I'd go if I were boosting a sled.
 

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I have a supercharged jetski, the bottom end is amazing, but the boost is revalant to the throttle, it's always adding boost and can be hard on fuel, I wish I had the option to turn my charger off for those days that I just wanna tour around in the heat.
My boat has a supercharger and it can be shut off via a switch but the bottom end tottaly sucks without the boost.
 
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I have a supercharged jetski, the bottom end is amazing, but the boost is revalant to the throttle, it's always adding boost and can be hard on fuel, I wish I had the option to turn my charger off for those days that I just wanna tour around in the heat.
My boat has a supercharger and it can be shut off via a switch but the bottom end tottaly sucks without the boost.
What supercharger are you running on your boat that is controlled by a switch? not saying isn’t possible but I never heard of such I’ve been around quite a few supercharged boats and it’s not one of those things you just flip a switch and turn off.
 

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What supercharger are you running on your boat that is controlled by a switch? not saying isn’t possible but I never heard of such I’ve been around quite a few supercharged boats and it’s not one of those things you just flip a switch and turn off.
I have a Diesel powered Volvo kad44, supercharged and turbo charged.
The charger is shut off by a solenoid, so if I wanna cruise at high idle instead of planing, I just turn the charger off, otherwise it sits there and whines like a dog ready to run lol
 

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I don't know where they are mounting the heat exchanger for the intercooler system on the Polaris kits, but on the Cats it is on the bottom of the bulkhead under the motor. So if early season rock and stump bashing is your thing it is susceptible to damage. Since they are building boost all the time they always require extra fuel so they can be thirsty. Friend has one on his Alpha and If he wants to make it over 45 miles he needs to pack extra fuel. After riding his it would be the only way I'd go if I were boosting a sled.
The heat exchanger on the Procharged Axys is under the tunnel, to install it you need to remove the gas tank. It uses an auxiliary water pump as well. Our Jet ski has a supercharger as well and pulls tubes better than our boat lol, but at 250hp it does like the gas. Not sure who likes the jet ski better, my kids or the local gas station ;)
 

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Why is this? Shouldn't the boost be relative to the pulley you use?
Hey Motorbreath, I should clarify, this was from what Kevin at Speedwerx said. They have excellent gains at elevation but are running such low boost at low elevation with their current tune that the value for the gains is not there if your only ride sea level, which is the same for the turbos. My friends with turbos that ride here in Upper MI don't have much for gains for the same reason, but work "well" out west.
 
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Hey Motorbreath, I should clarify, this was from what Kevin at Speedwerx said. They have excellent gains at elevation but are running such low boost at low elevation with their current tune that the value for the gains is not there if your only ride sea level, which is the same for the turbos. My friends with turbos that ride here in Upper MI don't have much for gains for the same reason, but work "well" out west.
I guess they are focusing on pump gas tunes.

Thanks for the info!
 
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