SP into an Expert

[klarkkentster]

Minus the shorter tunnel and different shocks - if one added the spindles, adjustable strap, smaller seat and expert bars.... would you kind of have an expert?

 

[02sedona]

Pretty much, the riser is shorter 4.7” vs 6.5” and the boards are different as well. I’m in the camp of buying sp models as left overs from the previous season and adding suspension. And then adding bar,risers,and grips of my preference. The running boards are not a problem for me. The spindles are lighter on a expert but the same geometry. If you like to tinker an sp could work. If you want out of the box and ready to ride, Just get an expert then

 

[caper11]

Kind of, but is not really worth it IMO. The shocks and tunnel is what makes the expert package.

 

[NHRoadking]

You need the lighter hood too.

 

[PaulAnd]

If you did a complete Raptor swap
And could get back some cash from your take offs??
Would be a bit better than the Expert
1600.00 Ace skid
4000.00 shocks
1500.00? Track
100.00 Removable flap
80.00 durapro ski rubber


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[TopshelfGin]

You easily throw longer Iceage rails under it have have an expert too.


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[duncan76]

If you did a complete Raptor swap
And could get back some cash from your take offs??
Would be a bit better than the Expert
1600.00 Ace skid
4000.00 shocks
1500.00? Track
100.00 Removable flap
80.00 durapro ski rubber


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I only got 3 grand invested with the ace and the kinetic shocks and the regular raptors on the front

 

[klarkkentster]

I only got 3 grand invested with the ace and the kinetic shocks and the regular raptors on the front

I like how you think. That regular SP would rip with converting a 55 to 65 with upgraded suspension.


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[Summit Guy]

154 SP to X / Expert
I just upgraded the SP shocks to KYB reduced 4.7" riser, installed ice age 165 rails new 3" track up from 154, trimmed snow flap, and added X stickers.

Just getting it back together

 

[Jason4]

If I were buying now I'd buy a Summit SP 155 and put 165 rails under it, put on my suspension of choice, cut the flap, and probably call it a day. When I went to sell it I'd probably put it back to stock and sell the parts separately.
I have a 2018 SP and my wife has a 2020 Expert.

 

[caper11]

Or just buy a expert and save the wrench time. I had a SP. The x boards are way better, they are stiffer, and do not hold snow at all.

 

[BCviking]

Pretty much, the riser is shorter 4.7” vs 6.5” and the boards are different as well. I’m in the camp of buying sp models as left overs from the previous season and adding suspension. And then adding bar,risers,and grips of my preference. The running boards are not a problem for me. The spindles are lighter on a expert but the same geometry. If you like to tinker an sp could work. If you want out of the box and ready to ride, Just get an expert then

The new spindles do have a different geometry .. If you install a set you will see how towed out your skis are after the install , alignment has to be done , i had to bring each tierod out a 1/4 inch to get my alignment right again.. Geometry must be different , and they use the new ski rubbers .

 

[Answ3r]

The new spindles do have a different geometry .. If you install a set you will see how towed out your skis are after the install , alignment has to be done , i had to bring each tierod out a 1/4 inch to get my alignment right again.. Geometry must be different , and they use the new ski rubbers .

And actually all 2021 Summits and Freeride use these new spindles.

 

[caper11]

I would not consider adjusting the toe because the mounting hole is slightly different a geometry change. If the a-arm mount holes and where the ski mounts is different yes.
I still had to use the munster ski bushing savers in my 2021 the skis were way to floppy for me, between my 2019 with the savers and my 2021. I noticed no difference in the side hilling.

 

[beans]

I created an "expert" out of a 2018 154 SP.
Ice Age 165 rails and new 165 track. Z-bros T-motion lock out and Duropros. I already owned Fox Evol X shocks and the shorter 145mm riser.

I am into this sled and parts and all for about $5000 less than an expert. It has a warranty through the 2022 season.

 

[klarkkentster]

I created an "expert" out of a 2018 154 SP.
Ice Age 165 rails and new 165 track. Z-bros T-motion lock out and Duropros. I already owned Fox Evol X shocks and the shorter 145mm riser.

I am into this sled and parts and all for about $5000 less than an expert. It has a warranty through the 2022 season.

Nice. Is there anything to watch out for on older Gen 4’s if one wanted to do the same? Go older for lower entry cost and add all the cool stuff.


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[Summit Guy]

2019 sp 154 $7500.00 needed track anyway
165 x 3" track and ice age rails 1700.00
KYB X shocks rebuilt $1000.00
Trimmed flap $0
lower riser $50.00
Total $10,250.00

 

[Sheetmetalfab]

2019 sp 154 $7500.00 needed track anyway
165 x 3" track and ice age rails 1700.00
KYB X shocks rebuilt $1000.00
Trimmed flap $0
lower riser $50.00
Total $10,250.00

$1000 for shock rebuild/ revalve.

Wow.

Try GSR in Idaho next time.

Probably under $300 for all 4............

 

[goridedoo]

$1000 for shock rebuild/ revalve.

Wow.

Try GSR in Idaho next time.

Probably under $300 for all 4............

Guessing thats $1000 for the revalved shocks... not the shock revalve, beings he started out with non rebuildable SP shocks.

 

[02sedona]

$1000 for Kyb shocks. Yikes! That’s what you would pay for new fox zero pro coils custom valved and sprung for you from Tom’s snowmobile.

It sounds like it’s a great sled now! $7500 for the sled purchase was a deal