Opinions wanted on ICE-AGE Elevate kits for twin rail Cats

kidwoo

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Thanks Kidwoo! I will do so.
Just fyi if you have a coil: I pulled my skid out to figure a few things out. The leverage ratio of shock travel to arm travel on my 2016 is 1:2. So a half inch longer shock eyelet will give you a one inch rise in the skid. I don't know enough about what your skid setup is but that's mine with stock 2016 stuff.

I'm going to measure out the air shock moved forward version in the next day or two.
 

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I bought an '18 recently, with bent rails. Bought an elevate. So I never got to ride it stock, but it works very well. Didn't feel any less nimble than the '20 Alpha I hopped on (granted, that sled isn't running right) or the single rail converted (and elevated) '17 mtn cat in the group last weekend. I found myself over riding the sled often, trying to adapt to a new chassis. I'm coming off an XM and find this easier to ride in the neutral position, where I'm normally going wrong foot forward frequently. Compared to the well setup '16 limited that was also in the group it gets up on the snow better and is generally easier to ride & less planted.

Very stoked to be on a Cat now, this sled absolutely stomps my old Doo. Both the elevate kit and the '18 were money well spent.
 

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Does anyone have experience with trying to use the elevate spindles in conjunction with a k mod skid?
 

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Does anyone have experience with trying to use the elevate spindles in conjunction with a k mod skid?
There was a post on Facebook regarding this. The guy tested a bunch of different skid mounting locations, front and rear, but I can’t remember what he settled on.

I’m wondering if you could work with both kmod and IceAge to get the elevate rails with the rest of the kmod setup. I believe the elevate rails have a different curve.
 

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I just went ahead and ordered the Barcode A arms for their 1 1/2" lift. I will give them a try without any rear skid changes and then determine if I need to make any modifications to drop the rear skid to match.
 

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Does anyone have experience with trying to use the elevate spindles in conjunction with a k mod skid?

I'm looking into this myself. My dad just ordered a twin rail kit for his 2018 and I'm going to see if I can commondeer his spindles to test with for a weekend. Or Maybe pull my k mod skid and try it in his sled to see what the difference is. Facebook conversation attached.
 

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^Awesome

I had a gen 2 kmod and they definitely work as advertised but yeah, a little too planted in the front end. I bet the way he's got that setup with the middle rear skid hole, a raised front arm plus 2" spindles is kind of awesome.
 

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I have a Gen 2 Kmod skid mounted in a King Cat (Sidewinder). Originally, the front end seemed a bit planted, so I was seriously considering the Elevate spindles - downside it would have been an expensive experiment. So I bought a set of SX race sled spindles (same as the 2020 Riot sleds), which are 1.5" taller, installed a different set of tie rod ends, and made a set of spacers to clear the 36" A-arms. I also raised the rear skid attachment point 3/4" on the advice of Kevin @ Kmod. The end result? A sled that handles awesome, easier to get on edge, and no ill effects that I've experienced, at a cost that was about a third of the elevate spindles60157284075__0CE58872-2DCB-4ADB-A834-EBB5C2268E19.JPG
 
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Follow-up review of my '17 Mountain Cat 153x3.0 PC with Gripper skis set @ 37.5, DS Ti can, Hubs Performance clutching vs the same sled, but with the IceAge Elevate kit. Unbelievable difference in rider effort; you look, lean, maybe counter steer a bit and the sled follows your eyes, usually in the neutral rider position! A riding buddy of mine who rides a '17 SnoPro 162 took it out and remarked "that is one bad-assed sled"; the clutching & chassis are instantly responsive and perfectly in time with each other. I do not how it compares to the Alpha, but the trail manners are good for a mountain sled & the deep snow capabilities are awesome, predictable & precise. If you, the rider makes a mistake the sled will too! I'm keeping it, until AC figures out how to eliminate the snow ingestion in the air boxes, the oiling issues in the CTech, the broken monorails, & the clutch tower failures. If anyone knows of any low mileage "17 Mountain Cats for sale I have friends that would be willing buyers!
 
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Great info MountainCat1. I am starting to think the same thing you are. My 2015 has a belt drive and the Mountain Cat lowered chain case with a TKI belt drive and the old Suzuki engine is looking pretty good right about now. My only concern about Elevating my sled is, I have already added the Barcode A arms. While the Barcode kit certainly helps the sled to become more nimble, contrary to what I have read previously it only raised the front of the sled about 1/2", not the 1 1/2" I had been lead to believe. I haven't heard of anyone trying an elevated Barcode setup, so I may have to be the first. However, I may not go quite as high as the Ice Age elevate spindles? I am going to read up on the SX race sled spindles (same as the 2020 Riot sleds), which are 1.5" taller than stock that Oneoldfart mentioned above. They may be a good alternative?
 
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I forgot to mention, that last year, I added the QSL rear track shock that required the longer pull-down rod & a (pre-drilled) relocation in the rear suspension. I don't how much that affected the rear skid geometry, but it is still there, like the '18s and could be a positive. I also plan to add the DuraPro ski dampers as CO2.0 suggested for the IceAge spindles over the Gripper skis. It would be great to add a 3.5" pitch/3" PC (Alpha) track to this twin rail to see just what it would capable of compared to a mono-rail.
 

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I have a 17 mtn cat that im selling

3x162
Elevate kit
Speedwerx stage 2
Tki belt drive
Gripper skiis
Shortened tunnel
1300 miles
Other goodies

7k. Located in southern utah
 

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I was trying to link my post from 2017-2018 but the new forum has it where I can't find anything I am looking for any longer.

I created a post in the 2016,2017 time frame that I thought the 2017 Mountain Cat would become a cult classic sled. I said this because it was the last year of the well known and very reliable Suzuki engine, the first year for the lowered chain case and narrower side panels, Team Clutches, etc. I have done my best to turn my 2015 into a 2017 Mountain Cat. If you feel the same, here are a few 2017 Mountain Cats for sale in my area:



 
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