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That is down right hilarious. Did you check the source of that video Mafesto before you posted it. "Samizdat Media" Russian underground media posted on an anti-muslum activist twit page. Thank you for sharing i will make sure i put that down as a quality unbiased news outlet. :hurt: and American's continue to spread propaganda aimed at dividing us and then wonder why we have problems in this country
...and the more you promote and accept muslim immigration into this country, they more problems we will have, the more devisive it will become. Are you completely blind to what is happening in the countries that have gone this route? Heck, just ask the folks in Minnesota how they like their new muslim enclaves and their INSANE muslim congressional rep?

It isn't dividing "US". It is about protecting us from THEM. It has taken a painful decade in europe but even those socialist libtards are starting to figure out that muslims are an insideous nasty dangerous bunch set on destroying western civilization. If you can not see this, you need to pay closer attention...
 

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...and the more you promote and accept muslim immigration into this country, they more problems we will have, the more devisive it will become. Are you completely blind to what is happening in the countries that have gone this route? Heck, just ask the folks in Minnesota how they like their new muslim enclaves and their INSANE muslim congressional rep?

It isn't dividing "US". It is about protecting us from THEM. It has taken a painful decade in europe but even those socialist libtards are starting to figure out that muslims are an insideous nasty dangerous bunch set on destroying western civilization. If you can not see this, you need to pay closer attention...
Be careful, I've been censored for telling the truth about dirty muslims.
 

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Be careful, I've been censored for telling the truth about dirty muslims.
Well nobody seems to want to talk about the truth when it comes to religion whether it is muslims, catholics, mormons etc etc. Unfortunately these are all things created by humans to manipulate humans. Some are fairly harmless, others not so much.

Besides, I have been kicked off this forum so many times it is almost like a sport...
 

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I never called them dirty as I have no experience with their daily hygiene...

They are most certainly a dangerous bunch though. They are on a conquest. EVERY muslim nation in the world was once a Christian nation, give that some thought...

If they believe in their religion enough to wear the dress promoting it, they are dangerous. They have read the book and bought in. The book says in no uncertain terms, in many many places, that they are to convert or kill those who do not believe what they believe. Pretty simple, I am not sure what damages peoples brains to the point where they choose to ignore these facts... Oh wait, sure I do, Political Correctness. Brought to you by the same group dogging our current President...
 

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bholmlate definitely knows the Notre Dame Cathedral and 800 year oak wood better than this guy. I bet bholmlate knows the safety protocols and all of the warning systems for smoke, and the 2 guard rotations that are on 24/7 as well
Yeah he's a smart one alright.

Say this 3 times fast....
One smart feller, he felt smart.
 

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EVERY muslim nation in the world was once a Christian nation, give that some thought...

And before they were Christian? Most of them would have been "Christian" or more aptly Catholic, for probably less than 500 years. Give that some thought.

It doesn't matter what you believe, if you use force on others to adopt it, it quickly becomes tyranny.
 

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And before they were Christian? Most of them would have been "Christian" or more aptly Catholic, for probably less than 500 years. Give that some thought.
Honestly it makes my head hurt to even read something that dumb... I have no idea what your point is at all.

It doesn't matter what you believe, if you use force on others to adopt it, it quickly becomes tyranny.
So the current problem is, the muslim religion is on a conquest.

Now other religions have done similar things throughout history. Failing to admit that this particular one is vile, inhumane and needs to be stopped or redirected somehow is what is allowing it to grow into a major problem today.

Maybe that is the lesson you should take from history?
 

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Bottom line is that if you have not yet realized it, you soon will, that islamists are as evil & vile as KKK, Nazis or any other group of garbage that you can think of.
Eradication is the best option.
 

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Bottom line is that if you have not yet realized it, you soon will, that islamists are as evil & vile as KKK, Nazis or any other group of garbage that you can think of.
Eradication is the best option.

They are pushing towards and "us or them" situation. Now you are making JLPs point though by suggesting we eradicate them. What makes us any better at that point?

I would rather see them kept at arms length. No sharia law sanctuaries in this country either.

Unfortunately they seem to be spreading and more frequently attacking christian sites.
 

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They are pushing towards and "us or them" situation. Now you are making JLPs point though by suggesting we eradicate them. What makes us any better at that point?
First off, if we do nothing, they keep on ruining communities and killing us. I'm for self preservation.
Furthermore, they refuse to assimilate. If you do not love this country, leave this country.

The sooner we run 'em off, the better everything will be.
 

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Thanks Gramps!!!.

If we erase the words "Oak beam" and insert the words "Wide Flange" the story lines between two legendary conspiracies are eerily the same. coincidence????

Let me refresh your old memory here. The same ploy was used by Renowned Structural Engineers in the USA, who adamantly state that burning Jet fuel will not burn hot enough to soften wide flange beams to the point they buckle and fail. So therefore in conclusion, it had to be a controlled demolition from inside that took down the Twin Towers. Surprise!!, Surprise!! the cheesy experiment they showed/used in that video was/is very similar to the very scientifically controlled experiment shown in this video. Thanks for posting the video I will make a mental note the next time i go camping, I will not put a German Craftsman in charge of starting my camp fire
 

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Thanks Gramps!!!.

If we erase the words "Oak beam" and insert the words "Wide Flange" the story lines between two legendary conspiracies are eerily the same. coincidence????

Let me refresh your old memory here. The same ploy was used by Renowned Structural Engineers in the USA, who adamantly state that burning Jet fuel will not burn hot enough to soften wide flange beams to the point they buckle and fail. So therefore in conclusion, it had to be a controlled demolition from inside that took down the Twin Towers. Surprise!!, Surprise!! the cheesy experiment they showed/used in that video was/is very similar to the very scientifically controlled experiment shown in this video. Thanks for posting the video I will make a mental note the next time i go camping, I will not put a German Craftsman in charge of starting my camp fire
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You are absolutely correct Gramps!!! the Conspiracy that Muslims torched Notro Dame is full of as much chit as the Conspiracy that the Twin Towers was a controlled demolition. Ask any fire fighter what happens to a old wood structure with a fire smoldering for +30 minutes in an enclosed space such as on attic with 900 hundred years of dust and dry wood before the firetrucks were even dispatched to the scene. You add to that little tid bit of information that once on scene they find out there is no really strategy/plan in place to fight the fire once it had started in this building and their only access to the fire consists of a steep stairway that take 6 minutes to climb if you are in shape. That is 6 minutes not carrying 100's of lbs. of hoses and gear. The attic had no modern day preventative measures in place to prevent fire from quickly spreading that have been implemented in the construction trades in the US in modern times by stricter codes and construction practices. What Makes this whole thing so ludicrous is that one major parts of this so called conspiracy is 900 year old heavy oak beams that make up the major roof trusses wont burn like that. The video you posted even shows the guy trying to light a big piece of i ASS-u-me to be dry oak. Althought its tough to tell what type of wood it is.



I am sure this will be really hard for some of your small brains to wrap around but the Heavy oak beams were only one very small component to a very large vast roof structure. The majority of the roof structure is made of up smaller pieces of wood that just happens to be roughly the same age as the 900 y.o. oak trusses (i.e. decking, purlins, cross, bracing etc...) you know smaller pieces of wood that you could compare to and resemble kindling you would use to get the fire good and hot before throwing say a heavy piece of oak on the fire. Conspiracies thrive on the lack of knowledge and as i stated before the Lack of knowledge of old wood structures and the properties of fire boggles my mind Yet everyone is convinced that a Muslim did it. carry on!!!
 

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Conspiracies thrive on the lack of knowledge and as i stated before the Lack of knowledge of old wood structures and the properties of fire boggles my mind Yet everyone is convinced that a Muslim did it. carry on!!!
You should pay a little attention scooter.
In post #20, I clearly stated that I had not yet made up my mind as to the source of the fire.
From reading your posts it appears that your the one that isn't open to other possibilities that don't align with your opinion.
 

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Pretty sure it was muslims in airplanes that took down the towers, also pretty sure muslims started a fire in the cathedral. Yep, sticking with both of those but, thanks for your input...
 

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Sorry to ruin a perfectly good argument of opinions with some facts on the matter. I should have known better. I will refrain from doing so in the future.

No!!! Mafesto your post did not go unnoticed at all. As far as being closed minded. I prefer to draw my conclusions based on facts not my opinions and allow my opinions to evolve as the facts dictate. It's a stronger position to stand on. It also makes it easier to admit when I am wrong when additional facts about a particular situation come to light that go against my current position.

So go right ahead and stand by your position that you have not made up your mind on the evils of Muslims across the globe and keep posting things that counter that point. That way never have to admit to yourself and other people that you wrong and what your position really is. Its like being in a car race and you keep moving the finish line to benefit your position on the track so that you always the leader of the race
 

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Pretty sure it was muslims in airplanes that took down the towers
And yet there is a big group of people including engineers and other professional that meet every year saying that it was a controlled demolition by our government.

pretty sure Muslims started a fire in the cathedral. Yep, sticking with both of those but, thanks for your input...
Please provide facts that point to this!!! Please don't mention any talking points spewed by know anti-Muslim groups. that's just propaganda.



Just so we are all clear Propaganda= information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
 
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