Next mods, for my alpha ..

[MrIQR]

So far I have a alpha Tki belt drive, full jaws big shark, what performance mods would you be doing next?

Lightweight rotating mass kit?
Head?
Reflash?

I’m leaning towards dropping rotating mass, lightweight helix, ti bolts & clutch pins, clutch cover, machine the brake rotor and whatever else I can get my hands on.

Strictly performance conversation here, maybe you know of something I don’t?

 

[spoon]

Adapt primary if you don't already have it, lightweight hood with headlight delete, TKI or Iceage upper control arms to change caster, Skinz seat and tank if money isn't a problem. Probably more ways to throw money at it I haven't thought of yet.

 

[hansenmac]

i think head and tune would be best bang for your buck then the lightweight hood looks good. I'm running the adapt primary on my 18 without the starter ring and it seems to work well.

 

[kanedog]

Timing key, drop 1 top tooth on the tki belt drive.

 

[MrIQR]

I forgot about the timing key option, are you running one? What *?

Is anyone machining the flywheels down?

 

[MrIQR]

i think head and tune would be best bang for your buck then the lightweight hood looks good. I'm running the adapt primary on my 18 without the starter ring and it seems to work well.

Who’s tuning are you using?

Anyone have a high compression, high octane set up? I’m ok with running 100+ octane. I remember seeing that someone offered a few high comp options.

Lightweight bolt on parts are a given, just talking performance here. My last cat was a m1000 in 2009 and I sold it 3 months after I got it so haven’t been watching what works on these. On my pros and axys I always used slp heads and pipes but looking to switch things up on this cat. Jaws will be here tomorrow.

 

[hansenmac]

Who’s tuning are you using?

Anyone have a high compression, high octane set up? I’m ok with running 100+ octane. I remember seeing that someone offered a few high comp options.

Lightweight bolt on parts are a given, just talking performance here. My last cat was a m1000 in 2009 and I sold it 3 months after I got it so haven’t been watching what works on these. On my pros and axys I always used slp heads and pipes but looking to switch things up on this cat. Jaws will be here tomorrow.

i have a ssi Y pipe pipe mod and a ggb can but im not running a tune but they ssi has reflashes for this pipe mod and for a jaws pipe. supposed to ad 4 to 6 hp over the pipe alone.

 

[ippielb]

ZRP Lightweight rotating kit, makes the sled super snappy.
Jaws Pipe Kit with extra venting in the front nose cone and ECU Flash from Arctic Edge in hillcrest Alberta.

My team clutch started to stick last trip west last season. I tried blowing it out, took the spring to a guy in town to get tested it was good. I cleaned everything perfectly. Checked the spider rollers, no cracks anywhere but still stuck. Was looking at maybe upgrading the clutch to the ADAPT primary.

Anyone have a comparison thread made up i couldn't find one

 

[kanedog]

I forgot about the timing key option, are you running one? What *?

Is anyone machining the flywheels down?

I think it’s 1.5 degrees.

 

[4bangrboost]

The 2.5 degree advance keys have been working good in the CTEC 400s (blast/venom). I will be trying one in a new 800 this winter.

Does anyone have experience with milling the stock heads? How tight can you run the squish? I know the chamber design is way different compared to aftermarket domes but figured it might be worth a try because I have access to a lathe and milling machine.

 

[hansenmac]

ZRP Lightweight rotating kit, makes the sled super snappy.
Jaws Pipe Kit with extra venting in the front nose cone and ECU Flash from Arctic Edge in hillcrest Alberta.

My team clutch started to stick last trip west last season. I tried blowing it out, took the spring to a guy in town to get tested it was good. I cleaned everything perfectly. Checked the spider rollers, no cracks anywhere but still stuck. Was looking at maybe upgrading the clutch to the ADAPT primary.

Anyone have a comparison thread made up i couldn't find one

i switched to the adapt for a few hundred miles last year, the spring mine came with was a little light and i wasnt pulling the rpm i should have. overall it seemed to run the same as my old clutch. mine has the 80-225 spring i think it is and some others came with a 80-255 spring. the heavier spring should bring the rpm back up.

 

[MrIQR]

Do the flywheel keys work from the Suzuki motors?

I don’t see anyone specifically listing them for the 2018+ ctek motors.

Also what does arctic edge charge for a remap? I’ve read lots of positive reviews of his work.

 

[boondocker97]

If you do an ECU re-flash you shouldn't need a timing key as they should be making timing changes in the mapping. Probably why the keys are less common now.

 

[kanedog]

The 2.5 degree advance keys have been working good in the CTEC 400s (blast/venom). I will be trying one in a new 800 this winter.

Does anyone have experience with milling the stock heads? How tight can you run the squish? I know the chamber design is way different compared to aftermarket domes but figured it might be worth a try because I have access to a lathe and milling machine.

I did mill about .030” but never installed. I was scared of piston contact.
I think .010 - .020” would be good.
It’s just a guess but .060-.080” was stock squish. I’ll check my notes and holla back.
What elevation are you running at?

 

[IDspud]

Adapt can definitely be set up for better response and harder pull than previous clutches.

 

[Krause09]

I’ve been running 2.5 key for 3 seasons with no probs, factory 2018 early build mtn cat

 

[4bangrboost]

I did mill about .030” but never installed. I was scared of piston contact.
I think .010 - .020” would be good.
It’s just a guess but .060-.080” was stock squish. I’ll check my notes and holla back.
What elevation are you running at?

7k-10k feet, I have compared the OEM 400cc to aftermarket head, looks like milling the OEM .015" would still be safe on squish, but still not even close on compression, might try milling both head surface and squish band to gain compression and stay safe on squish. I will experimenting on the 400 before I tackle the 800 head.

 

[Albatroz]

So far I have a alpha Tki belt drive, full jaws big shark, what performance mods would you be doing next?

Lightweight rotating mass kit?
Head?
Reflash?

I’m leaning towards dropping rotating mass, lightweight helix, ti bolts & clutch pins, clutch cover, machine the brake rotor and whatever else I can get my hands on.

Strictly performance conversation here, maybe you know of something I don’t?

A Polaris 900... ???

 

[Clark42]

Sounds like all it needs is gas and oil ?

 

[MrIQR]

Sounds like all it needs is gas and oil ?

That is true but I’d like a little more out of it. Gunna pull my flywheel and brake rotor for zrp to machine down, and have a light weight helix added to the return shipping box lol

Head and reflash after I decide on who’s flash. At least that is the plan for now