Minneapolis (aka Chicago West) is burning

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mountainhorse,

So, to your point and using your word "extremist" freely it makes me wonder what YOUR "normal" is.

What pretty much everyone else defines as MSM / mainstream media you say one way or another it's EXTREMIST.

That said, where do you get your perceived accurate information from? (it is obviously NOT extremist as already implied by your stated standards)
It's pretty obvious what he's saying, no? Whenever you have 2 vastly opposing opinions/views - the logical person can almost always reason truth somewhere in the middle after gathering info from a few sources. Unless you were directly involved, that's really all you can do.

That is the heart of the USA's current problems. 2 teams with 2 different views of the US should move forward (or backward). The focus is on their team "winning," or being right (correct), rather than developing solutions with the most widespread benefit. The poor education system and lack of world vision has developed a LARGE portion of the population that simply goes along with party lines, and does not demand (or see the need for) better solutions. Many of which already exist elsewhere (as in you don't need to start from scratch on the plans). The general unwillingness to compromise with middle-ground solutions further fuels the divide. "Normal" is somewhere in the middle....you take the stuff that makes sense from all "sides" and leave the rest behind....your views are fluid as new information presents itself, because that's how people learn.
 

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Some info pointing to theory that lots of disinformation campaigns from outside our border.... hmm....







When you have armed vigilantes showing up at protests or rallies that they oppose... that is inciteful... I don't care if it is people that want to call themselves patriots for opposing Trump at a Trump Rally...or "boogaloo's" showing up at BLM rally/protest like that jerk that ended up shooting someone in AZ...

If you are there to incite violence... you need to be hauled off.

Interesting how police arrested a Trump protester at the rally.
Was she there to cause a disturbance or annoy the Rally supporters.... I don't doubt that for a bit.
Which is why the instructions came from Trump-Campaign officials, within their ability to do so, instructed police to remove her from the area.

Should the extremist boogaloos and other armed extremist group-counter-protesters be hauled away from BLM rallies by police because they intend to do the same thing or worse with their weapons?
Should an armed person going to a rally/protest be able to "stand their ground" when they went there to incite in first place?
We'll see as this plays out... I just hope that innocents are not killed or injured.
Fair points.
My response...
Consider that typically the BLM and most often times the antifa events become violent & destructive by themselves. You rarely if ever see this at a Trump rally.
That being said, armed patriots will often times surface at the BLM or antifa events simply to protect their city. Obviously this doesn't always help.
I would also concede that there are times when these aren't patriots at all and are no better than the other side, hoping to not miss out on a potential scuffle.

If one could truly randomly compare 100 Trump rallies to 100 antifa rallies we can undoubtedly agree that the intent of violence and destruction from the antifa scoundrels would be significantly higher than that from the Trump supporters.
 

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Its happening!
Minneapolis Is The New Chicago — 90 People Shot In The Last Month, 19 Over Father’s Day Weekend Alone.
And so far 9 already to day shot and multiple stabbings.
 

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Minneapolis Is The New Chicago — 90 People Shot In The Last Month, 19 Over Father’s Day Weekend Alone.
And so far 9 already to day shot and multiple stabbings.
Well, they opened their arms to people that despise our way of life.
Don't you dare act surprised!
 

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The Black Dilemma "For almost 150 years the United States has been conducting an interesting experiment. The subjects of the experiment: black people and working-class whites.

The hypothesis to be tested: Can a people taken from the jungles of Africa and forced into slavery be fully integrated as citizens in a majority white population?

The whites were descendants of Europeans who had created a majestic civilization. The former slaves had been tribal peoples with no written language and virtually no intellectual achievements. Acting on a policy that was not fair to either group, the government released newly freed black people into a white society that saw them as inferiors. America has struggled with racial discord ever since.

Decade after decade the problems persisted but the experimenters never gave up. They insisted that if they could find the right formula the experiment would work, and concocted program after program to get the result they wanted. They created the Freedmans Bureau, passed civil rights laws, tried to build the Great Society, declared War on Poverty, ordered race preferences, built housing projects, and tried midnight basketball. Their new laws intruded into people’s lives in ways that would have been otherwise unthinkable.

They called in National Guard troops to enforce school integration. They outlawed freedom of association. Over the protests of parents, they put white children on buses and sent them to black schools and vice-versa. They tried with money, special programs, relaxed standards, and endless hand wringing to close the achievement gap. To keep white backlash in check they began punishing public and even private statements on race. They hung up Orwellian public banners that commanded whites to Celebrate Diversity! and Say No to Racism. Nothing was off limits if it might salvage the experiment.

Some thought that what W.E.B. DuBois called the Talented Tenth would lead the way for black people. A group of elite, educated blacks would knock down doors of opportunity and show the world what blacks were capable of.

There is a Talented Tenth. They are the black Americans who have become entrepreneurs, lawyers, doctors and scientists. But ten percent is not enough. For the experiment to work, the ten percent has to be followed by a critical mass of people who can hold middle-class jobs and promote social stability. That is what is missing.

Through the years, too many black people continue to show an inability to function and prosper in a culture unsuited to them. Detroit is bankrupt, the south side of Chicago is a war zone, and the vast majority of black cities all over America are beset by degeneracy and violence. And blacks never take responsibility for their failures. Instead, they lash out in anger and resentment.

Across the generations and across the country, as we have seen in Detroit, Watts, Newark, Los Angeles, Cincinnati, and Ferguson, rioting and looting are just one racial incident away. The white elite would tell us that this doesn't mean the experiment has failed. We just have to try harder. We need more money, more time, more understanding, more programs, and more opportunities.

But nothing changes no matter how much money is spent, no matter how many laws are passed, no matter how many black geniuses are portrayed on TV, and no matter who is president. Some argue it’s a problem of culture, as if culture creates people’s behavior instead of the other way around. Others blame white privilege.

But since 1965, when the elites opened Americas doors to the Third World, immigrants from Asia and India people who are not white, not rich, and not connected have quietly succeeded. While the children of these people are winning spelling bees and getting top scores on the SAT, black youths are committing half the country's violent crime, which includes viciously punching random white people on the street for the thrill of it that has nothing to do with poverty.

The experiment has failed. Not because of white culture, or white privilege, or white racism. The fundamental problem is that American black culture has evolved into an un-fixable and crime ridden mess. They do not want to change their culture or society, and expect others to tolerate their violence and amoral behavior. They have become socially incompatible with other races by their own design, not because of the racism of others - but by their own hatred of non-blacks.

Our leaders don't seem to understand just how tired their white subjects are with this experiment. They don't understand that white people aren't out to get black people; they are just exhausted with them. They are exhausted by the social pathologies, the violence, the endless complaints, and the blind racial solidarity, the bottomless pit of grievances, the excuses, and the reflexive animosity. The elites explain everything with racism, and refuse to believe that white frustration could soon reach the boiling point."
 

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So who went shopping today at only blaque businesses today ?

Did you know there is a black chamber of commerce ?

Guess it fits right up there with black only colleges .
 
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