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Is there anywhere in th NW to buy a new 650 matryx?

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Just wondering if there is anyone recieving or stocking a 650 matryx to buy In the NW Oregon/WA or close. I don't have a snow check and am looking at options? Might be a dumb question but have to ask it.
 

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I don’t think Polaris dealers stock up on the 600 class, especially this year. I had a really hard time finding a left over 600 last year. Had to travel 1200 miles round trip to just get one.3BC39CF5-F8FD-4F34-9E8B-366EDA8AECF5.jpeg
 

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My dealer just told me that the Matryx 650 155" electric start I have coming is scheduled to be here in March. Sucks that our season is pretty much done in March, but to be a dealer right now would really suck.
 

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The OP didn't mention mountain vs trail... but I'd love a Khaos 146 for two smaller riders. I've never ridden a 600 or 650, but imagine the power is adequate for these two riders. I struggle to justify the 650 when the 850 is "only" $1000 more (7%). What if their skill acquisition curve exceeds expectations and they want more power? What of resale? No weight advantage of the 650. So why do people buy the 600/650?

According to NADA (not that accurate for sleds I know, but the only data I have on used sled prices) 2019 600, 800 and 850 Pro RMK 155s all have a 70% residual value when looking at "average retail" at this time.

I don't see many 600s for sale in my area so perhaps the rarity increases resale. Hard to know how accurate the NADA data is, but it doesn't appear to be a resale advantage (or penalty) going with a 600 or 650.

So, again, why buy 600s (650s) mountain sleds? I'm considering replacing a 550 next season so talk me into or out of a 650.

thx, Law
 
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I bought my wife a 600 because she is a beginner rider and I didn’t want the potential for her to unintentionally pin an 850 wide open. The 600 is much tamer and allows her to mentally relax and have fun instead of being scared all day.

I will move her up to a bigger motor when she is ready. If that day ever comes.
 

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I had 2 new sleds, a 2013 800 pro RMK 155 I rode and a 2013 600 pro RMK 155 for the wife. Now let me say my wife had been riding for 5 years at this point.

When the snow got deep or she got in a tuff situation she preferred the 800. She doesn't ride aggressive enough with the throttle to ride the 600 in these situations. She liked the extra grunt of the 800. She now rides a 21 850 165 pro.

My opinion is the 600/650 is great while there learning, but be prepared to trade up in a couple years. Or pass the 600 down to one of the kids.
 

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The OP didn't mention mountain vs trail... but I'd love a Khaos 146 for two smaller riders. I've never ridden a 600 or 650, but imagine the power is adequate for these two riders. I struggle to justify the 650 when the 850 is "only" $1000 more (7%). What if their skill acquisition curve exceeds expectations and they want more power? What of resale? No weight advantage of the 650. So why do people buy the 600/650?

According to NADA (not that accurate for sleds I know, but the only data I have on used sled prices) 2019 600, 800 and 850 Pro RMK 155s all have a 70% residual value when looking at "average retail" at this time.

I don't see many 600s for sale in my area so perhaps the rarity increases resale. Hard to know how accurate the NADA data is, but it doesn't appear to be a resale advantage (or penalty) going with a 600 or 650.

So, again, why buy 600s (650s) mountain sleds? I'm considering replacing a 550 next season so talk me into or out of a 650.

thx, Law
One of the big reasons for me is that the 600 historically hasn't had nearly the reliability and longevity problems of the 800. Polaris has a hard time making an 800 that will go beyond 2,000 miles without some significant work being done to it. But the 600s seem to hit 5,000 with no problems at all still.
 

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I agree on the big pistons not living as long as smaller ones, After owning 5, 6, 7 and 800's my experience is when you go over 700's you start riding with what I call " 2 Stroke Anxiety " That's just my feeling. In 2014 I bought a 6000 MC 153x2.6 Power Claw ( Coming off of a 290Hp Apex) and that little 600 was a blast to ride in the trees. I rode with 800 Doos, 800 Poos and 800 Cats and that little 6 surprised some of the 8's (Yes I do understand rider weight and ability come into play on a 600) but not everyone out their can ride an 8-850 to there potential stock, so for those of us that are getting older and more mellow, I think this 650 set up well will be a blast in the bush ;)

Next time you ride or watch You Tube, listen closely how often an 8-850 is wide open when riding the bush (Not very much or at least not for very long at any one time) so riding a smaller sled just means your on throttle more or longer to do the same thing. ( This obviously does NOT translate to BIG hills and/or Deep snow as Hp/Tq is King there) but in the bush you ain't riding a 600/650 full smoke all day (at least not me, my Chris Brandt bush riding comes to an end when I wake up from a dream in the morning.

As a bonus, lets say the Boyz on their 8/850s spank ya, big deal, your an old Grampa on a 6/650. If I had a 8/850 I wouldn't be bragging that I beat up on a 6/650. Now on the other hand, lets say that Grampa on a 6/650 beats up on the 8/850, talk about your basic mind F@#K and bragging rights. I thinks this new 650 Polaris is going to surprise some people. All while having less " 2 Stroke Anxiety " Sounds like a Win Win to me ;):cool::devilish:
 
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One of the big reasons for me is that the 600 historically hasn't had nearly the reliability and longevity problems of the 800. Polaris has a hard time making an 800 that will go beyond 2,000 miles without some significant work being done to it. But the 600s seem to hit 5,000 with no problems at all still.
One more thing is that simply the modulation of the power is much easier for beginners to get the hang of when you don't have tons and tons of power available that you don't need. The key to learning is learning how to properly modulate that throttle all the time - not just hammering away.

If you've ever been in the business of control valves or anything like it, you know that your worst enemy is a control valve that is way over-sized. It makes it very difficult to control correctly because you are only ever operating in the bottom 20% of the stroke of the valve. Same concept here for beginners. Get a "valve" that is sized correctly instead of being way oversized, and the entity "learning" to control correctly will have a much easier time.
 

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Thanks for the response to my hijack question. Good points… I guess we will see how long it takes for my boy to outgrow the 550.
 
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