• I've received emails and PM's asking me about "Group Buys" and promotions.

    A Group Buy here on SnoWestOnline.com would be a situation where a normal member (non vendor or mfg) personally collects orders from other members. That member then uses those orders to negotiate a better price with the Vendor/Mfg for HIS/HER "Group" of buyers.

    Here is an example of a viable "Group Buy"


    A promotion that has the words "Group Buy" in the title is still a promotion, and from the rules that were handed down to me by Harris Publications is that non-advertisers cannot run promotions or open sales programs on the forums outside of the swapmeet.

    If a members wants to become a group buy manager, maintain a thread and collect the funds and negotiate a group buy... as a member, you are welcome to do that as long as you are not attached to the business of the vendor or Mfg.

    If you are a vendor/MFG and you want to offer an EXCLUSIVE "SnoWestOnline ONLY" promotion that is exclusive to snowest readers, please contact me and you'll be able to put it up in the Polaris forums.

    Also, before any vendors/mfgs get all "riled up" over this know that the moderators are strictly volunteers and do not receive a dime from any advertising $$ spent on this site.

    As ALWAYS, since DAY ONE of me becoming a moderator, I have pioneered, supported and encouraged vendors and mfgs in getting the word out to our readers with "New Product Announcements.

    Have a great season.

    From this point on, all vendors/mfg's promoting Pre-Season tiered sales programs, in the Polaris Forums, that are not paid advertisers will be appropriately moved to the swapmeet section of the forums.


e-start removal


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Jan 23, 2008
Replace the battery with the WPS Firepower. Shaves off like 10 pounds. If you put the lightweight battery in and swap out the can with an SLP or similar, you have your e-start weight differential right there. Of our 3 850's, one is e-start. It's something you get kind of used to. Hoping Doo licenses SHOT to others.


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Oct 5, 2010
what all is involved in removing a factory e-start, minus ring gear?
is it worth it for the weight savings?
remove the E start then add a turbo.

weight stays the same and balanced.

E start is super handy when doing a lot of restarts (stucks and such)

I’ve noticed a lot less stucks after adding boost. (Seems to be working for me)


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Feb 2, 2010
Removing e-start is worth about 23lbs. I did it on my 2016 and I thought it was worth it and noticeable. Its fairly straight forward, but the 3 bolts under the PTO side exhaust valve were pretty hard to reach and bust loose....


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Nov 28, 2007
Has anyone noticed if the e start sleds are a bit slower reving than the non e start sleds due to the weight of the ring gear and it’s position so far from the Center of the crank? I’ve seen a difference and I’m not sure if it was the ring gear or something else contributing to it.


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May 8, 2010
Brush Prairie Wa
what all is involved in removing a factory e-start, minus ring gear?
is it worth it for the weight savings?
Once you get everything out, send me an invoice, put in box and ship to me.
Your sled gets lighter while your wallet gets heavier.

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