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Yeah construction/startup non sustainable jobs that dont last. Heavily subsidized.
Coal/gas/nuclear sustainable jobs that supply reliable power at a constant rate to meet demand.
Ask Texas about reliable power on demand.
Kinda like the pipeline jobs that you guys are so wound up about???

Ask Texas about how well their gas plants worked in the cold...
 

BLITZKRIEG

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Kinda like the pipeline jobs that you guys are so wound up about???

Ask Texas about how well their gas plants worked in the cold...
Texas got rid of most their coal so had their gas lines not already been carrying a heavy burden to supply turbine plants, businesses and homes gas might have been in better shape.
Point still stands that wind and solar dont work when you need it so take notes.
 

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Kinda like the pipeline jobs that you guys are so wound up about???

Ask Texas about how well their gas plants worked in the cold...
Why was it that the gas plants are having this problem ? There's a reason but that one you don't want to talk about . Kind of like why was California having electrical issues ?

Your way of thinking is the reason why these failures have been happening . That has NO BACK UP PLAN

Your way of thinking doesn't fix **** , your worthless , standing in line as usual waiting for the next hand out . Destroy and conquer .
 
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Yeah JTK it is all your fault that greedy Republicans screwed over Texas. The same way that antifa created the January 6th incident. Liberals ruin everything for capitalists. They hate America when they expose corruption and poor leadership. We deserve to ruin this planet because God hates minorities. People on unemployment and welfare should be crushed and put into a pipeline.

Do you know why?!?! I'm not going to tell you! You figure it out mr know it all.

How is my Kawksteer impression going?
 

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People on unemployment and welfare should be crushed and put into a pipeline.
You are such a complete idiot , beyond rationality , your a moron .

For you to even say that someone should bitch slap your stupid F- - - - - ASS

Your a hateful piece of **** to even say that
 
J
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Texas got rid of most their coal so had their gas lines not already been carrying a heavy burden to supply turbine plants, businesses and homes gas might have been in better shape.
Point still stands that wind and solar dont work when you need it so take notes.
Actually, if they had not cheaped out and had built their infrastructure for the potential weather conditions that do happen in TX occasionally then all of the systems would likely have worked just fine. Wind turbines can generate efficiently at -40 if they are set up properly, if TX hadn’t kneecapped themselves their wind power likely would have done quite well in the high winds that generally accompany an arctic front... sure works just fine in a lot of other places.

I know that’s inconvenient to the right wing windmill cancer narrative but it’s undeniably true. Just like the fact that the natural gas plants would have likely done just fine if they had been protected against freezing.

Burning coal isn’t the answer. Planning, thinking and setting up the overall grid to function efficiently with input from all sources is.
 

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Actually, if they had not cheaped out and had built their infrastructure for the potential weather conditions that do happen in TX occasionally then all of the systems would likely have worked just fine. Wind turbines can generate efficiently at -40 if they are set up properly, if TX hadn’t kneecapped themselves their wind power likely would have done quite well in the high winds that generally accompany an arctic front... sure works just fine in a lot of other places.

I know that’s inconvenient to the right wing windmill cancer narrative but it’s undeniably true. Just like the fact that the natural gas plants would have likely done just fine if they had been protected against freezing.

Burning coal isn’t the answer. Planning, thinking and setting up the overall grid to function efficiently with input from all sources is.

Google any cold weather trend(s) with wind. When it’s -40 the wind doesn’t blow just how it is. Also to take the “wind” out of your sails when it is super hot the wind doesn’t blow either ya twat. Doesn’t every home building skier know this?
 

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Google any cold weather trend(s) with wind. When it’s -40 the wind doesn’t blow just how it is. Also to take the “wind” out of your sails when it is super hot the wind doesn’t blow either ya twat. Doesn’t every home building skier know this?
You can't tell these clowns anything. They already know everything.
 
S
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It's like explaining a hybrid toyota engine to a panel of morons. The electric motor (wind) supplements the overall system that runs on fuel (natural gas) when it is under the most load. How is this still being discussed? Is it a discussion or just a political talking point? I would have to watch Fox News to find out but I'll pass.
 
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Google any cold weather trend(s) with wind. When it’s -40 the wind doesn’t blow just how it is. Also to take the “wind” out of your sails when it is super hot the wind doesn’t blow either ya twat. Doesn’t every home building skier know this?
Hmmm, maybe the engineers that locate the wind turbines tend to build them where the wind blows?

Sure, when a big high pressure is set in the winds tend to be somewhat calm, but when those systems are coming or going it sure blows. Places that tend to be between typical high and low pressure areas also tend to be windy (hood river Oregon?) That’s why a balanced efficient grid with redundancy makes sense. I know that’s tough to understand and burning tons of coal seems easier, but it’s not 1920 anymore...
 

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Google any cold weather trend(s) with wind. When it’s -40 the wind doesn’t blow just how it is. Also to take the “wind” out of your sails when it is super hot the wind doesn’t blow either ya twat. Doesn’t every home building skier know this?

The cold spell had us sub zero for close to two weeks. The common comment was..."At least the wind didn't blow"
So despite what Ace says...he doesn't know crap.
 
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I have a couple of really good friends that work for Bonneville Power and a couple others that build wind farms. BP finds solar and wind very unreliable. Even in Hood River Oregon. The output is so sporadic the are constantly infusing with reliable sources. Solar is produces less than half of a 24 hour day most of the year. Wind doesn’t blow consistently. In high winds they turn the wind mills of because if they turn to fast they implode. The blades are mostly built in the Netherlands and the motors in China. The only reason we have windmill farms is government subsidies. You and I kill a Bald Eagle we get a huge fine and jail time. Obama gave the farms a pass and they can kill thousands of Eagles and millions of other birds with no repercussions. They even pay biologists to walk the land below to count the dead birds. Apple and other companies say they buy only green energy. Totally a farce. They buy what they believe the output they need from the farm would be but actually use hydro, coal and gas energy on the days the wind isn’t blowing. Same principle as buying carbon credits.
 
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